Hi Mike,
Because Validate-Job is restored (for functionality) at IPP 2.1
and IPP 2.2 and is the required internal behavior part of Print-Job
of the close flag in Send-Document.
Gone for a walk with my dog and lunch...
Cheers,
- Ira
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
> I can update the slides accordingly, and include a high-level "this is what
> they are and do" slide.
> Ira, why would Close-Job internally do a Validate-Job operation, given that
> IPP's Validate-Job is deprecated for 2.0?
> On Feb 9, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Tom Hastings wrote:
>> Ira,
>> Sounds like we should add to the IPP f2f agenda for tomorrow:
>> 1. Whether or not to add Close-Job operation to JPS2.
> 2. Whether or not to add "job-delay-output" and "job-delay-output-until" Job
> Template attributes to JPS2.
>> Should I make a separate straw horse draft of just these additions so we can
> talk about them at the f2f?
>> Tom
>>>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 09:49
> To: ipp at pwg.org; Tom Hastings; Michael R Sweet; Ira McDonald
> Subject: Add Close-Job to JPS2
>> Hi,
>> The MFD WG has identified that a first class Close-Job
> operation (as opposed to hiding it in Create-Job and
> Send-Document with a boolean flag) is desirable for
> many Services (to allow clean streaming, for example).
>> We should add Close-Job (which triggers Validate-Job
> internally) to JPS2.
>> Cheers,
> - Ira
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> email: blueroofmusic at gmail.com> winter:
> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
> 734-944-0094
> summer:
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> 906-494-2434
> [TH> ]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 09:53
> To: Michael Sweet; Ira McDonald
> Cc: ipp at pwg.org; Tom Hastings
> Subject: Re: Add job-delay-output(-until) to JPS2
>> Hi Mike,
>> We are NOT even in WG last call - we are in Prototype status,
> waiting for evidence of prototyping BEFORE entering WG last
> call.
>> And yes, we are allowed to add functionality in either WG last
> call or PWG Last Call (but NOT during PWG Formal Vote).
>> Cheers,
> - Ira
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> email: blueroofmusic at gmail.com> winter:
> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
> 734-944-0094
> summer:
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> 906-494-2434
>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>> We certainly can, although I'm not sure of the process issues - are we
>> allowed to add new content during WG last call?
>> On Feb 9, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Ira McDonald wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The MFD WG has defined a new pair of attributes
>> similar to job-hold-until(-time), but with somewhat
>> different semantics.
>> The new attributes ALLOW Job processing (e.g.,
>> interpreting the Job) but DELAY any actual output.
>> They are currently the only NEW attributes that are
>> defined only in the MFD Overall spec.
>> However, Pete Zehler confirms that Xerox already
>> has implementations of this delay functionality.
>> So we should add them to JPS2, right?
>> Cheers,
>> - Ira (IPP/2.0 co-editor)
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
>> email: blueroofmusic at gmail.com>> winter:
>> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
>> 734-944-0094
>> summer:
>> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
>> 906-494-2434
>> ___________________________________________________
>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>>>>>> ___________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer
>>>
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