Hi Ted and Scott,
We need to send a new enum to IANA for the IANA Printer MIB.
We request that you appoint Harry Lewis (chair of IEEE/ISTO PWG,
co-editor of RFC 3805/3806) as the Designated Expert for the IANA
Printer MIB and IANA Finisher MIB modules.
Cheers,
- Ira (co-editor of RFC 3805/3806)
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:40 PM
> To: McDonald, Ira; 'Bergman, Ron'; pmp@pwg.org
> Subject: RE: PMP> Restructured Port MIB (18 July 2005)
>
>
> Given that most other TCs in the same IANA maintained MIB module
> in fact DO have a enum of: unknown(2)
> I can even see it would be very easy to make the case that it was
> an error/omission that the PrtChannelTypeTC does not have it.
>
> I do not see why this would need to take more than a few weeks
> in fact. The addition (as far as I can tell) can be made by
> expert review (to be designated by APPS ADs).
>
> Do you want to give it a try?
>
> Bert
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald@sharplabs.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 17:38
> > To: 'Bergman, Ron'; McDonald, Ira; Wijnen, Bert (Bert); pmp@pwg.org
> > Subject: RE: PMP> Restructured Port MIB (18 July 2005)
> >
> >
> > Hi Ron,
> >
> > Based on previous IPP experience, it will take MONTHS to add one
> > new enum to the PrtChannelTypeTC with IANA - that would stop the
> > Port Mon MIB dead in its tracks until it was accepted by IANA.
> >
> > About ppmPrinterEnabled - same rationale as ppmPortEnabled - keeps
> > the number of Printer entries STATIC in an implementation - lets
> > the user see that the one Printer (i.e., hardward output interface)
> > on an External Network Adapter should presently be ignored.
> >
> > Remember that the Port Mon MIB MUST NOT depend on either Host
> > Resources or Printer MIB, by common concensus - it may only
> > AUGMENT them, if they are present.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> >
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman@rpsa.ricoh.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:40 PM
> > > To: McDonald, Ira; Wijnen, Bert (Bert); pmp@pwg.org
> > > Subject: RE: PMP> Restructured Port MIB (18 July 2005)
> > >
> > >
> > > Ira,
> > >
> > > I am not sure what value ppmPrinterEnabled adds to the MIB.
> > > This appears to be analogous to
> > > On Line/Off Line. If I want to create a driver for the
> > > printer I don't care what the current
> > > state is. That information is only necessary when I am ready
> > > to print and then this MIB is
> > > not used.
> > >
> > > I believe that Bert has a valid point in using
> > > ppmPortProtocolType. It is not a major effort
> > > to add unknown(2) to the IANA registrations.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, the changes are inline with our discussions
> > > following the test.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pmp-owner@pwg.org [mailto:pmp-owner@pwg.org]On Behalf
> > > Of McDonald,
> > > Ira
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:46 AM
> > > To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; McDonald, Ira; 'pmp@pwg.org'
> > > Subject: RE: PMP> Restructured Port MIB (18 July 2005)
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bert,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your quick feedback. My replies inline below.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Ira
> > >
> > >
> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> > > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:08 AM
> > > > To: McDonald, Ira; 'pmp@pwg.org'
> > > > Subject: RE: PMP> Restructured Port MIB (18 July 2005)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Only did a very very quick scan.
> > > >
> > > > Comments.
> > > >
> > > > - ppmPortProtocolTargetPort OBJECT-TYPE
> > > > SYNTAX Integer32 (0..65535)
> > > > I propose that you use InetPortNumber TC from RFC4001
> > > >
> > >
> > > Won't work, because this port is not limited to Internet Suite
> > > protocols. The 'service:' URI in ppmPortServiceNameOrURI may
> > > also be for non-Internet suites (AppleTalk, NetWare, etc.).
> > >
> > > I'll correct the DESCRIPTION in the MIB and make clear that
> > > (as with the Printer MIB) ports/channels may be from multiple
> > > protocol suites.
> > >
> > >
> > > > - ppmPortProtocolType OBJECT-TYPE
> > > > SYNTAX Integer32 (0..2147483647)
> > > >
> > > > WHy not use TC PrtChannelTypeTC as the SYNTAX?
> > > > I do see that you want to use zero (meaning not supported).
> > > > But maybe better is to use none(1) in that case, or maybe
> > > > adding an enumeration to the TC of notSupported(xx) ??
> > > > It is now an IANA-maintained TC, so it should not be that
> > > > difficult to get a label added.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Won't work. PrtChannelTypeTC currently only defines 'other(1)'
> > > and (foolishly) does NOT define 'unknown(2)' (unlike every other
> > > textual convention in the Printer MIB). Because the Printer MIB
> > > v2 still doesn't define DEFVAL clauses for most objects, this
> > > oversight has not surfaced before. We could register
> 'unknown(2)'
> > > with IANA, but _not_ fast enough (because this MIB's
> going into OS
> > > and printer vendor products right now).
> > >
> > >
> > > > - ppmPortPrtChannelIndex has a reference to RFC1213, while I
> > > > think I would reather reference RFC2863 (the current IF-MIB)
> > > >
> > > > Bert
> > > >
> > >
> > > Agreed. My mistake from the old Printer MIB (RFC 1759).
> > >
> > > I'll correct the references in the MIB.
> > > - Ira
> > >
> >
>
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