Re: MFD> Dec 11 PWG MFD face-to-face meeting minutes available

From: david@lexmark.com
Date: Mon Dec 17 2007 - 12:37:31 EST

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    I, too, hate our use of the term "subunit" and support the change to
    "components."

    I also strongly agree with Pete that I don't want the proposed change.

    Components are constituent elements. Configuration is the relative
    disposition or arrangement of elements. Therefore, the Configuration is
    made up of Components.

    Capabilities depend on the available Components, or the Configuration.
    Settings is a collection of Capabilities and their current state. (We'll
    ignore Heisenberg's uncertainty principle)

    dhw

                                                                               
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                 12/17/2007 11:42 nchen@okidata.com, mfd@pwg.org
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                                           Re: MFD> Dec 11 PWG MFD
                                           face-to-face meeting minutes
                                           available
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               

    Hi Pete,

    I see you what you mean, but...

    Be aware that DMTF CIM Core WG hates our term "subunits" and has made
    us completely replace it with their term "components".

    "Configuration is" just too inherently ambiguous. "Xxx" is just as
    meaningful,
    if the intent is to imply components.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    On Dec 17, 2007 6:38 AM, Zehler, Peter <Peter.Zehler@xerox.com> wrote:
    > Ira,
    >
    > I do not want to see that change. When I talk to our driver people
    > "settings" is more closely aligned with the default ticket and
    > capabilities. Settings can be changed by an administrator or End User
    > (often remotely). A configuration can not be as easily changed and
    > involves the addition or removal of hardware. There are other mappings
    > (see
    > <http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa507422.aspx>) that are very
    > closely aligned with the PWG Semantic model. Their Defaults & Allowed
    > Values map to Settings. Their Configuration maps to Subunits (i.e.
    > Configuration).
    >
    > In the PWG Semantic Model the configuration element is the installed
    > hardware for the system or the effective hardware configuration for the
    > service (i.e. the service specific view for the subunits used).
    >
    > Pete
    >
    > Peter Zehler
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    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-mfd@pwg.org [mailto:owner-mfd@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira
    > McDonald
    > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:40 PM
    > To: nchen@okidata.com; Ira McDonald
    > Cc: mfd@pwg.org
    > Subject: Re: MFD> Dec 11 PWG MFD face-to-face meeting minutes available
    >
    >
    > Hi Nancy,
    >
    > Thanks for these excellent and detailed minutes.
    >
    > A comment on element group naming. What Pete (and minutes) referred
    > to as a new group parallel to Capabilities and DefaultJobTicket is
    > always
    > called Settings throughout the classes in the CIM model.
    >
    > We will have to add a PrintServiceSettings and PrintServiceCapabilities
    > classes in our 2008 WIMS-CIM modelling work.
    >
    > I suggest changing Configuration to Settings.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > - Ira
    >
    >
    > On Dec 15, 2007 2:54 AM, <nchen@okidata.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Dear All,
    > >
    > > The meeting minutes is now available as:
    > >
    > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/PWG_MFD_minutes_20071211.pdf
    > > and
    > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/PWG_MFD_minutes_20071211.doc
    > >
    > > Thanks very much for your participations. We had very fun, witty, and
    > > fruitful discussions in the meeting.
    > >
    > > -Nancy
    > >
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    >
    >
    >
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    > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
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Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
work: +1-906-494-2434
home: +1-906-494-2697
email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com

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