RE: MFD> Dec 11 PWG MFD face-to-face meeting minutes available

From: Zehler, Peter (Peter.Zehler@xerox.com)
Date: Mon Dec 17 2007 - 11:49:25 EST

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    Ira,
    I have no problem with your mapping to CIM. In CIM we'll do it the DMTF
    way.
    Pete

    Peter Zehler
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com]
    Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:42 AM
    To: Zehler, Peter; Ira McDonald
    Cc: nchen@okidata.com; mfd@pwg.org
    Subject: Re: MFD> Dec 11 PWG MFD face-to-face meeting minutes available

    Hi Pete,

    I see you what you mean, but...

    Be aware that DMTF CIM Core WG hates our term "subunits" and has made
    us completely replace it with their term "components".

    "Configuration is" just too inherently ambiguous. "Xxx" is just as
    meaningful,
    if the intent is to imply components.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    On Dec 17, 2007 6:38 AM, Zehler, Peter <Peter.Zehler@xerox.com> wrote:
    > Ira,
    >
    > I do not want to see that change. When I talk to our driver people
    > "settings" is more closely aligned with the default ticket and
    > capabilities. Settings can be changed by an administrator or End User
    > (often remotely). A configuration can not be as easily changed and
    > involves the addition or removal of hardware. There are other
    mappings
    > (see
    > <http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa507422.aspx>) that are
    very
    > closely aligned with the PWG Semantic model. Their Defaults & Allowed
    > Values map to Settings. Their Configuration maps to Subunits (i.e.
    > Configuration).
    >
    > In the PWG Semantic Model the configuration element is the installed
    > hardware for the system or the effective hardware configuration for
    the
    > service (i.e. the service specific view for the subunits used).
    >
    > Pete
    >
    > Peter Zehler
    > XEROX
    > Xerox Research Center Webster
    > Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
    > Voice: (585) 265-8755
    > FAX: (585) 265-7441
    > US Mail: Peter Zehler
    > Xerox Corp.
    > 800 Phillips Rd.
    > M/S 128-25E
    > Webster NY, 14580-9701
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-mfd@pwg.org [mailto:owner-mfd@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira
    > McDonald
    > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:40 PM
    > To: nchen@okidata.com; Ira McDonald
    > Cc: mfd@pwg.org
    > Subject: Re: MFD> Dec 11 PWG MFD face-to-face meeting minutes
    available
    >
    >
    > Hi Nancy,
    >
    > Thanks for these excellent and detailed minutes.
    >
    > A comment on element group naming. What Pete (and minutes) referred
    > to as a new group parallel to Capabilities and DefaultJobTicket is
    > always
    > called Settings throughout the classes in the CIM model.
    >
    > We will have to add a PrintServiceSettings and
    PrintServiceCapabilities
    > classes in our 2008 WIMS-CIM modelling work.
    >
    > I suggest changing Configuration to Settings.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > - Ira
    >
    >
    > On Dec 15, 2007 2:54 AM, <nchen@okidata.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Dear All,
    > >
    > > The meeting minutes is now available as:
    > >
    > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/PWG_MFD_minutes_20071211.pdf
    > > and
    > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/minutes/PWG_MFD_minutes_20071211.doc
    > >
    > > Thanks very much for your participations. We had very fun, witty,
    and
    > > fruitful discussions in the meeting.
    > >
    > > -Nancy
    > >
    >
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    >
    >
    > --
    > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
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    -- 
    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
    Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
    PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
    work: +1-906-494-2434
    home: +1-906-494-2697
    email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
    


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