[IPP] New Cloud-related operations for IPP System Service

[IPP] New Cloud-related operations for IPP System Service

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Mon Dec 1 15:58:39 UTC 2014


Ira,

> On Nov 26, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> For operation (3) DeregisterOutputDevice, I was thinking of the case
> where a running service (Print in the near term) crashes (and this is
> noticed by System Service, let us hope).  If DeregisterOutputDevice
> is (redundantly) supported by the System Service, then an Administrator
> could do the cleanup for the Infrastructure Printer (who might queue
> jobs).

Presumably DeregisterSystem is the way for the System service to clean up references to the output device in all services it manages, even those that have "crashed" (which is a state we don't really model semantically...) If you want to deregister from a single service, you talk to that one service.

> Or, I'm crazy, and the System Service would automatically do this
> cleanup internally and no external operation needs to be exposed.
> But that risks a Deregister when the crashed service can be
> successfully automatically restarted by the System Service after
> a brief interval of unavailability.  

I would assume that self-healing of this sort would be expected of a cloud/SDN solution, with notifications sent to the relevant admin/operator. And I don't think we can necessarily recover from all situations like this - the Proxy might well have gotten a response from its Deregister-Output-Device request, with the cloud service crashing after successfully sending a response, so we have to hope that implementations will provide a way to perform manual cleanup as needed...

> I have mixed feelings about the reliability (and advisability) of 
> automatic recovery by the System Service for crashed or stalled 
> Job Services.

Typically servers will be restarted a certain number of times in order to provide continuous service, with an alert going out for each crash/failed restart. And such things are typically configurable by service and various events - I have such things setup with our PWG.org <http://pwg.org/> server instance, for example...

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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

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