[Cloud] Hello!

[Cloud] Hello!

Sarin, Suseelan suseelan at gmail.com
Wed Jul 28 19:53:21 UTC 2010


Hi!

I am new to this whole stuff. Sorry if this sounds silly. But, I have
a doubt about the following point

> 2. Printing using a service hosted over the Internet;
> => the print service may or may not be provided by a Cloud Computing infrastructure.
> => the print service does not need to worry about metered, shared/virtualized across all tenants if not part of Cloud Computing infrastructure.

Aren't the comments there more appropriate for "Printing _from_ a
service hosted over the Internet"?

Regards,
Sarin

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:08 AM, <Nancy.Chen at okidata.com> wrote:
>
> Well, here are what I see differences between 2. & 3.
>
> 2. Printing using a service hosted over the Internet;
> => the print service may or may not be provided by a Cloud Computing infrastructure.
> => the print service does not need to worry about metered, shared/virtualized across all tenants if not part of Cloud Computing infrastructure.
>
> 3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing;
> => the print service provided must provide metering for on-demand usage, which can be shared/virtualized across all tenants on the Cloud Computing infrastructure.
>
> -Nancy
>
>
>
> "William Wagner" <wamwagner at comcast.net>
> Sent by: cloud-bounces at pwg.org
>
> 07/28/2010 03:03 PM
>
> To
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> cc
> Subject
> RE: [Cloud] Hello!
>
>
>
> Well yes, they are all pretty open ended at this point. If someone would
> like to propose a sufficiently inclusive but bounded statement, please do.
>
> And, at least in my mind, 2 & 3 are not the same. Despite the impression
> given in some advertisements, it appears that Cloud Computing will be used
> very much in non-mobile enterprise environments. Therefore, it might be that
> the printing aspect may not use the internet at all, although it may be
> affected by the interaction over the internet.
>
> Bill Wagner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Fenelon [mailto:mfenelon at microsoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:01 PM
> To: Ira McDonald; William Wagner
> Cc: cloud at pwg.org
> Subject: RE: [Cloud] Hello!
>
> And
>
> "3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing"
>
> is somehow not open-ended?
>
> I would argue that points 2 and 3 are really the same thing just said
> differently.
>
> Mike Fenelon
> Microsoft
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cloud-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira
> McDonald
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:53 AM
> To: William Wagner; Ira McDonald
> Cc: cloud at pwg.org
> Subject: Re: [Cloud] Hello!
>
> Hi,
>
> I suggest that the phrase Cloud Printing (on this mailing list anyway) be
> restricted to only "3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing".
>
> Any of the other definitions brelow are too open-ended for sensible
> requirements or focused use cases.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open
> Printing WG Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP &
> Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
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>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:45 PM, William Wagner <wamwagner at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > I see the mailing list is up, but there appear to have been no
> > messages posted yet so, by way of testing the list and of greeting
> > those of you that have signed up, I sent this "Hello" and solicit your
> comments.
> >
> > I think a nice place to start is to consider what Cloud Printing
> > encompasses (as distinguished from Google's CloudPrint, which is more
> > clearly defined)
> >
> > From present use, it may be interpreted to mean:
> >
> > 1.     Printing over the Internet;
> >
> > 2.     Printing using a service hosted over the Internet;
> >
> > 3.     Printing associated with Cloud Computing;
> >
> > 4.     Any sort of Mobile Printing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Opinions? (or, if you are so inclined, Facts?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,  Bill Wagner
> >
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