[Cloud] Hello!

[Cloud] Hello!

Nancy.Chen at okidata.com Nancy.Chen at okidata.com
Wed Jul 28 19:38:55 UTC 2010


Well, here are what I see differences between 2. & 3.

2. Printing using a service hosted over the Internet;
=> the print service may or may not be provided by a Cloud Computing 
infrastructure.
=> the print service does not need to worry about metered, 
shared/virtualized across all tenants if not part of Cloud Computing 
infrastructure.

3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing;
=> the print service provided must provide metering for on-demand usage, 
which can be shared/virtualized across all tenants on the Cloud Computing 
infrastructure.

-Nancy




"William Wagner" <wamwagner at comcast.net> 
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Well yes, they are all pretty open ended at this point. If someone would
like to propose a sufficiently inclusive but bounded statement, please do.

And, at least in my mind, 2 & 3 are not the same. Despite the impression
given in some advertisements, it appears that Cloud Computing will be used
very much in non-mobile enterprise environments. Therefore, it might be 
that
the printing aspect may not use the internet at all, although it may be
affected by the interaction over the internet.

Bill Wagner

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Fenelon [mailto:mfenelon at microsoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:01 PM
To: Ira McDonald; William Wagner
Cc: cloud at pwg.org
Subject: RE: [Cloud] Hello!

And

"3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing"

is somehow not open-ended?

I would argue that points 2 and 3 are really the same thing just said
differently.

Mike Fenelon
Microsoft

-----Original Message-----
From: cloud-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:cloud-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of 
Ira
McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:53 AM
To: William Wagner; Ira McDonald
Cc: cloud at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [Cloud] Hello!

Hi,

I suggest that the phrase Cloud Printing (on this mailing list anyway) be
restricted to only "3. Printing associated with Cloud Computing".

Any of the other definitions brelow are too open-ended for sensible
requirements or focused use cases.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open
Printing WG Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG IETF Designated Expert - IPP &
Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com
winter:
579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176
734-944-0094
summer:
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839
906-494-2434



On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:45 PM, William Wagner <wamwagner at comcast.net>
wrote:
> I see the mailing list is up, but there appear to have been no
> messages posted yet so, by way of testing the list and of greeting
> those of you that have signed up, I sent this "Hello" and solicit your
comments.
>
> I think a nice place to start is to consider what Cloud Printing
> encompasses (as distinguished from Google's CloudPrint, which is more
> clearly defined)
>
> From present use, it may be interpreted to mean:
>
> 1.     Printing over the Internet;
>
> 2.     Printing using a service hosted over the Internet;
>
> 3.     Printing associated with Cloud Computing;
>
> 4.     Any sort of Mobile Printing.
>
>
>
> Opinions? (or, if you are so inclined, Facts?)
>
>
>
> Thanks,  Bill Wagner
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