Thanks Ira, at least we are in sync.
Norbert
From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:03 PM
To: Norbert Schade
Cc: Zehler, Peter; Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list
Subject: Re: FW: [SM3] SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported, JobResolversSupported
Hi Norbert,
No - the 1.185 was the last version. Daniel Manchala (SM WG chair)
has a local copy only of very recent updates.
Cheers,
- Ira
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Norbert Schade <Norbert.Schade at conexant.com<mailto:Norbert.Schade at conexant.com>> wrote:
All, keep in mind that I'm still working with 1.185.
Maybe Pete did everything on the current (not yet public) version???
From: Zehler, Peter [mailto:Peter.Zehler at xerox.com<mailto:Peter.Zehler at xerox.com>]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:04 PM
To: Ira McDonald; Norbert Schade; Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list
Subject: RE: FW: [SM3] SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported, JobResolversSupported
That was the intent but the base classes were added midway through the MFD work so I may have missed a few things.
From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:01 PM
To: Norbert Schade; Ira McDonald; Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list; Zehler, Peter
Subject: Re: FW: [SM3] SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported, JobResolversSupported
Hi Norbert,
I see what you mean. It's an oversight. Constraints/Resolvers is supposed
to be present for every Job service (not Resource or System Control).
Pete - shouldn't these be in the base ImagingServiceDescriptionType?
Cheers,
- Ira
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Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Norbert Schade <Norbert.Schade at conexant.com<mailto:Norbert.Schade at conexant.com>> wrote:
Ira,
Let me answer to you directly.
This scan section is way shorter:
<xs:complexType name="ScanServiceDescriptionType">
<xs:complexContent>
<xs:extension base="ImagingServiceDescriptionType">
<xs:sequence>
<!-- service type (function of this service object) REQUIRED - MUST be single-valued see WIMS Object Model - section 4 [WIMS-PRO] -->
<!-- list of URI supported by this service REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued see printer-uri-supported - section 4.4.1 [RFC2911] -->
<!-- service vendor-supplied description and/or label OPTIONAL - MUST be single-valued see printer-info - section 4.4.6 [RFC2911] -->
<!-- Object administrative name OPTIONAL - MUST be single-valued see printer-name - section 4.4.4 [RFC2911] see prtGeneralPrinterName - section 6 [RFC3805] -->
<!-- list of services (by ID/name/URI) subordinate to this service REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued -->
<!-- list of devices (by ID/name/URI) subordinate to this service REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued -->
<!-- list of subunits (by ID) supported by this service, REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued see Printer Sub-Units - section 2.2 [RFC3805] -->
<!-- document formats supported by this service REQUIRED - MAY be multi-valued see document-format-supported - section 4.4.22 [RFC2911] -->
<!-- list of resources (by ID/name/URI) supported by this service OPTIONAL - MAY be multi-valued see ResourceId in Resource XML schema see ResourceName in Resource XML schema -->
<xs:element ref="DocumentPasswordSupported" minOccurs="0"/>
<xs:element ref="JobPasswordSupported" minOccurs="0"/>
<xs:element ref="JobPasswordEncryptionSupported" minOccurs="0"/>
<xs:any namespace="##other" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded"/>
</xs:sequence>
</xs:extension>
</xs:complexContent>
<!-- ScanServiceDescription - group -->
</xs:complexType>
Than the corresponding extension in the print service.
There I find the constraints stuff additionally.
Norbert
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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:46 PM
To: Semantic Model 3.0 Workgroup discussion list; Ira McDonald
Subject: Re: [SM3] SM2, 1.185: JobConstraintsSupported, JobResolversSupported
Hi Norbert,
ALL of the services (including ScanServiceDescription) import and extend the base ImagingServiceDescriptionType).
I think this is what you wanted?
Cheers,
- Ira
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On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Norbert Schade < Norbert.Schade at conexant.com<mailto:Norbert.Schade at conexant.com>> wrote:
> Just for the high level view:
>> I find JobConstraintsSupported and JobResolversSupported objects under
> PrintServiceDescription under PrintServiceBaseType under PrintService
> in the PrintService schema.
> As PrintServiceBaseType is also providing PrintServiceCapabilities,
> this is rather nicely tied up, meaning it can all be covered in one
> complex structure.
>> When I search through the ScanService schema, I do find
> ScanServiceCapabilities and ScanServiceDescription objects.
> But the ...Description object is much shorter, especially not
> providing any reference to that constraints stuff.
> So to me it looks as if I'm supposed to create a somewhat independent
> xml instance based on the ServiceTypes schema that deals with constraints.
> Is that currently under review? Perhaps going to be merged into a
> common ...Description object?
> If yes, what is the intended schedule? Is that almost ready for a vote
> or still heavily edited these days? That would likely have an impact
> on which SM version we follow in our internal design.
> Regards
> Norbert
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