IPP> Printing through a firewall [caution]

IPP> Printing through a firewall [caution]

Robert Herriot bob at herriot.com
Mon Dec 8 20:13:42 EST 2003


I have Hawking Parallel Print Servers connected to 3 of my printers on my 
home network.  They work well.

I checked the "Setup" web page on the Hawking and there are absolutely no 
options that deal with security.
So I conclude that the Hawking doesn't support any IPP security.

Bob Herriot

At Monday 12/8/2003 03:16 PM, McDonald, Ira wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Paul is right.  If your Hawking Parallel Print Server
>supports SSL/3.0 (or TLS/1.0) and has a manufacturer
>embedded Server certificate (so that your external
>customer can start an _encrypted_ session to a fully
>authenticated printer), then you can use HTTP simple
>user/password authentication for your client.
>
>Cheers,
>- Ira
>
>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
>phone: +1-906-494-2434
>email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Moore, Paul [mailto:Paul.Moore06 at ca.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:29 PM
>To: McDonald, Ira; Ara Roselani; ipp at pwg.org
>Subject: RE: IPP> Printing through a firewall [caution]
>
>
>
>
>You can use TLS/SSL with simple user password client auth. This is a lot
>easier to setup than client certs providing the IPP server supports it
>(and it really ought to).
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-ipp at pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp at pwg.org] On Behalf Of
>McDonald, Ira
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:12 PM
>To: 'Ara Roselani'; ipp at pwg.org
>Subject: RE: IPP> Printing through a firewall [caution]
>
>
>Hi,
>
>[Disclaimer - the following is personal opinion - you should
>consider taking some advice from your organization's network
>security professionals or consultants]
>
>Yes, port 631 (and ONLY that port) must be open on external
>firewall (for inbound HTTP over TCP connections) for IPP
>to work.
>
>Personally, I would NOT let any external customer print
>through my firewall via IPP, unless I had enabled the
>TLS/1.0 option (which may or may not be supported in
>your Hawking Parallel Print Server) and was using both
>Server authentication (certificate-based SSL just like
>a Web server) AND also Client authentication (cert-based
>SSL authentication for your external client).
>
>Otherwise, I think you're going to see quite significant
>denial of service attacks against port 631 on the external
>side of your firewall.
>
>Here's a link to Hawking Technology's Print Server family:
>
>   http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodList.php?FamID=42
>
>And here's the link to the Datasheet for their HPS1P product:
>
>   http://209.61.202.44/images/datasheet/HPS1P-Datasheet_LR.pdf
>
>That datasheet describes their IPP support (briefly) but does
>not mention SSL/TLS support in the implementation (not very
>surprising, because cert-based authentication is not trivial).
>
>I hope this all helps some.
>
>Cheers,
>- Ira
>
>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
>phone: +1-906-494-2434
>email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ara Roselani [mailto:ara at americanlegalcopy.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:15 PM
>To: ipp at pwg.org
>Subject: IPP> Printing through a firewall
>
>
>I'm brand new to IPP and I have a client that wants to print directly to
>our
>copy shop's printer.  I'm attempting to set this up without breaching
>security.  I'm aware that I can use VPN tunneling (IPSEC), but I'm
>exploring
>other options.
>
>We have a Linux Firewall running on Redhat.  Our internal network is
>running
>a 192.168.4.0 scheme that goes through the firewall to the router.
>
>I have a small Hawking 10/100 Parallel Print Server hooked up to my
>printer,
>which allows IPP printing.  It's assigned to 192.168.4.100.  I can print
>just fine internally.  I'm at the point where I need to assign firewall
>rules to let this through.
>
>Do I need to forward port 631 to the firewall's external interface
>through
>NAT to allow IPP to go through?  Ideally, I'd like to be able to print
>to
>the Firewall's external IP.  Is this secure?  Is there a better
>configuration?
>
>Thanks.
>---
>Ara Roselani
>Network Administrator
>Portland, Oregon
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