Hi Tom,
I see your point about 'asset' BUT - I fear confusion with
the prevalent term 'asset management' which usually refers
to whole boxes, furniture pieces, etc. in a corporate
environment.
I think I prefer keeping 'resource' because (in the case
of print systems), this usage already has considerably
deployment.
Cheers,
- Ira McDonald
-----Original Message-----
From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:18 PM
To: McDonald, Ira
Cc: ipp
Subject: RE: IPP> Sketch of an idea: Define a Resource container object
fo r Print D river Extension and other sub-types
Sounds good to add a "resource-id" READ-ONLY attribute that is assigned by
the Printer when each object instance is created.
We probably also need a Set-Resource-Attributes operation, don't we?
Finally, it has been suggested that maybe the name Asset would be more
general than Resource. What do you think? Then Asset could also be used to
model components of the Printer itself, such as input trays, or output bins,
though usually they wouldn't be created by a client.
Comments?
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: McDonald, Ira [mailto:imcdonald at sharplabs.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 11:38
To: 'Hastings, Tom N'; ipp
Subject: RE: IPP> Sketch of an idea: Define a Resource container object
fo r Print D river Extension and other sub-types
Hi Tom,
Excellent write-up. Thanks.
One comment - while I agree that Resource objects should have
user-friendly 'resource-name' attributes assigned by the
resource creator, I think it's also useful for the IPP Printer
to assign a 'resource-id' (integer) identifier to all Resource
objects (partly because some existing systems DO internally
assign a number to the resources and partly because I suspect
we'll find cases where it's useful to have).
Cheers,
- Ira McDonald
High North Inc
-----Original Message-----
From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 11:17 AM
To: ipp
Subject: IPP> Sketch of an idea: Define a Resource container object for
Print D river Extension and other sub-types
We have discussed several times on the IPP telecons about adding a new
Resource object. This mail note is a sketch of the idea to see if there is
support for developing an IPP spec along these lines. The reason to being
this idea up now is because of the discussion of the Print Driver Extension.
The Resource object approach would allow a way to install print drivers on
the Printer and to Get Print Drivers from the Printer to install on a
client. It would allow a Printer to have more than one print driver, say
one for each of a number of different OS platforms and/or PDLs.
Should the Resource object be an agenda topic for the New York City IPP WG
Meeting, 5/17-18?
Here is the sketch of the Resource object idea and its operations:
The Resource object is a generic container object for a number of sub-typed
objects. The Resource object would have a number of operations defined.
Each operation would include an operation attribute that identifies the
object sub-type in question. Then implementers could define new sub-types
easily without having to invent new operations.
There are some attributes common to all sub-types, such as the
"resource-name", "resource-sub-type", "resource-owner",
"resource-creation-date-time", etc., and a lot that are specific to a
particular sub-type. Some sub-types will also have opaque data associated
with each object instance (such as fonts, forms, images, and print drivers),
and others will only have attributes (such as media).
The initial list of sub-types include:
media - Just attributes which define the media characteristics. So the
client can query the media library and the administrator can add new media
and define their characteristics
fonts - attributes and the PDL data
forms - attributes and the PDL data
logos - attributes and the PDL data
images - attributes and the PDL data. high resolution images can be put
into a shared image library and called out from a number of documents
print drivers - attributes and the opaque data is the executable code
The operations would include:
Create-Resource - the client specifies the resource type and a user-friendly
name for it that is used in all subsequent operations, including Job
Submission operations (Print-Job, Create-Job, Send-Document). A lease time
is also requested (just like our Subscription objects) and the Printer
returns the lease time granted (which may be infinite meaning no need to
renew or finite, meaning that the client must renew the lease, else the
resource will be deleted).
Delete-Resource - delete the named resource of the indicated sub-type
Renew-Resource - renews the lease, in case it wasn't infinite
Get-Resource-Attributes - returns the requested (or all) attributes of a
specified resource type and instance.
Get-Resources - returns the requested (or all) attributes of a specified
resource type that matches the supplied filter criteria consisting of any of
the resource attributes. Here the filtering is more complex than we have
for Get-Jobs or Get-Subscriptions operations, since the client could filter
on any of the resource attribute values. For example, a client could
request all of the media that has a "media-size" equal to particular pair of
x and y dimensions and get back the other resource attributes of any matched
media instances.
Get-Resource-Data - returns the opaque data for those resources for which
the data is not copyrighted, etc.
These operations are very similar to the Subscription object operations that
the IPP WG has nearly approved for notification. The only differences are:
Subscription Ids are assigned by the Printer as numbers, while resource
object instances have user friendly names assigned by the creator. Both
have leases, but Subscription leases are expected to be much shorter
(minutes, hours) and handled by the software, not the user, while Resource
objects leases are much longer (days, weeks, months), though both can be
infinite depending on SA policy, and the user or administrator explicitly
creates the Resources. Also Resources are known to users and administrators
and are managed by them. Also Subscriptions don't have any complex filtering
in the query requests.
[We don't want to merge Subscriptions into Resources, just illustrate their
similarities]
It will also allow the administrator to set up policy on who can create
which kinds of resources and for how long.
Comments?
Thanks,
Tom