XP Mail Archive: Re: XP> FW: Last call announcement for XHTM

Re: XP> FW: Last call announcement for XHTML Print

From: ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com
Date: Thu Jul 31 2003 - 16:28:39 EDT

  • Next message: BIGELOW,JIM (HP-Boise,ex1): "FW: XP> FW: Last call announcement for XHTML Print"

    Jim,

    I reviewed the public version and here are a few comments.

    1. I am OK with requiring support for multiplexing.

    2. Required support for script, noscript, and hidden. I don't mind this
    change, exactly. But (at the risk of re-opening a long debate) if the
    assumption is that an XHTML-Print client is generating data specifically in
    this language, then it should never generate these cases. So mandating
    support seems redundant. On the other hand, if the intent is to gracefully
    degrade when receiving data from other sources, then there are other issues
    (e.g. frames) that also come up.

    3. The new treatment for attributes is nice.

    4. Section 2.1, last paragraph. Changing the MIME type makes sense. But
    I assume that "application/xhtml+xml" could refer to other kinds of data
    besides XHTML-Print. In other words, the receiving side can't tell that
    this data is XHTML-Print. Unless he looks at the DOCTYPE...right?

    I'm wondering if this change will be a problem for protocols such as UPnP
    that use the MIME type to distinguish "document format" (in the Semantic
    Model sense) when advertising capabilities. For example,
    http://www.upnp.org/download/Service_print_v1_020808.pdf says

      "All UPnP printers MUST support at least the
    'application/vnd.pwg-xhtml-print' document format[XHTML-PRINT] ..."

    This would have to change to something new, in a way that specifically
    refers to XHTML-Print.

    5. Section 2.3.1, "Images" section, fourth bullet. It used to say "Image
    data within the object element need not be supported." and now it says "A
    printer MAY choose to omit images referenced by a URI [RFC2396] containing
    a scheme name other than cid [RFC2392] and http [RFC2616] ." I'm confused.

    ------------------------------------------
    Elliott Bradshaw
    Director, Software Engineering
    Oak Technology Imaging Group
    781 638-7534

                                                                                                   
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    Hello,

    The W3C version of the PWG's XHTML-Print has achieved public status as W3C
    Last Call Working Draft. I am cordially invite your review of the document
    and eagerly await you comments. Please feel free to forward this notice to
    anyone you think should review and comment on the draft.

    Substantive changes to the draft with respect to the PWG Proposed Standard:
    1. Required support for the multiplexed document format as described in
    Appendix B.2
    (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2003/WD-xhtml-print-20030723/#a_inline.2).
    An informative note is added on the format of the such documents and
    printer
    image processing.
    2. Required support for the script module so that a printer can detect and
    discard a script and render the contents of the noscript element instead of
    the script.
    3. Annotation of element attributes in terms of required processing: must,
    should, may, and N/A.
    4. required support for the hidden form element so that it can be detected
    and its content discarded.
    5. more precision in the processing of
      5.1 td and th align and valign attributes
      5.2 kinds of URIs
      5.3 types of images

    Best regards,

    Jim Bigelow,

    Editor: XHTML-Print & CSS Print Profile
    W3C HTML and CSS Working Groups
    Hewlett-Packard
    208-396-2068
    jim.bigelow@hp.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Steven Pemberton [mailto:steven.pemberton@cwi.nl]
    Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:28 AM
    To: w3c chairs; HTML CG; www-html@w3.org
    Cc: HTML WG
    Subject: Last call announcement for XHTML Print

    Comments may be sent to www-html-editor@w3.org
    The Last Call review period ends on 2359Z on 7 September 2003.

    The following are the working groups that are especially invited to review
    the draft:

        CSS
        Device Independence

    The decision to go to last call is minuted at:
    http://www.w3.org/2003/07/23-html-irc#T14-22-51

    The current status of the HTML Patent Statements is available at:
    http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2002/Disclosures.html

    Title, URL and status:

    XHTMLT-Print http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2003/WD-xhtml-print-20030723

    XHTML-Print is member of the family of XHTML Languages defined by the
    Modularization of XHTML [XHTMLMOD]. It is designed to be appropriate for
    printing from mobile devices to low-cost printers that might not have a
    full-page buffer and that generally print from top-to-bottom and
    left-to-right with the paper in a portrait orientation. XHTML-Print is also
    targeted at printing in environments where it is not feasible or desirable
    to install a printer-specific driver and where some variability in the
    formatting of the output is acceptable.

    This document contains the XHTMLT-Print W3C Working Draft of 23 July 2003
    and is a Last Call Working Draft for review by W3C members and other
    interested parties. This document is in the Last Call review period, which
    ends on 7 September 2003. Comments are to be sent to www-html-editor@w3.org
    (archive). This specification is based, in large part, on a work by the
    same
    name, XHTMLT-Print [XHTMLPRINT] from the Printer Working Group (PWG), a
    program of the IEEE Industry Standard and Technology Organization. The PWG
    specification has been submitted to the W3C Recommendation Track with the
    agreement that it will revert to the PWG if a Candidate Recommendation has
    not been produced by 06 May 2005.

    Best wishes,

    Steven Pemberton
    Chair, HTML WG



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