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RE: XP> Suggested rationale for the presentation module

From: don@lexmark.com
Date: Tue Jan 07 2003 - 14:42:08 EST

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    Elliott's right and in my "not quite recovered from 2 weeks off during the
    holidays" stupor, forgot to change "simple printer" to "simple client" in
    the 1st sentence.

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    ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com@pwg.org on 01/07/2003 02:36:06 PM

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    To: "BIGELOW,JIM (HP-Boise,ex1)" <jim.bigelow@hp.com>
    cc: don@lexmark.com, owner-xp@pwg.org, PWG XHTML-Print <xp@pwg.org>
    Subject: RE: XP> Suggested rationale for the presentation module

    Don said "simple client". I think he was allowing a client program to be
    very naive about formatting, and using the presentation module as a
    convenience. It seems that a complying printer has to implement the other
    stuff regardless.

    And, if I've understood it right, that logic makes sense to me.

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    Elliott Bradshaw
    Director, Software Engineering
    Oak Technology Imaging Group
    781 638-7534

                        "BIGELOW,JIM
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                        rationale for the
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                        01/07/2003
                        02:20 PM

    Don Wright wrote on Tue Jan 07 2003 - 09:10:30 EST
    > Should we say anything about the Presentation Module allowing
    > a simple client that doesn't support CSS to create simple
    > font variants like bold, italic, etc.?
    >

    How about amending the text to be as follows?

    "The Presentation module, section 5.4.1 of [XHTMLMOD] is supported since it

    contains elements that are both structural and presentational, provides
    the only method for specifying rules (the hr element), and allows very
    simple
    printers that might not support CSS to means for identifying font variants
    such as bold and italic. This module contains the structural mark up
    commands
    for superscripts and subscripts that allow simple printers to identify and
    format
    these construct without CSS properties. Additionally, this module provides
    common
    presentational markup commands such as bold, italic, big text, small text,
    and
    teletype. Supporting this module allows a printer to render these common
    elements
    in a manner that appropriate for its capabilities."

    Jim Bigelow,
    Editor: XHTML-Print & CSS Print Profile
    IEEE, Printer Working Group
    http://www.pwg.org/xhtml-print
    Hewlett-Packard
    208-396-2068
    jim.bigelow@hp.com



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