From: Manros, Carl-Uno B (cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Date: Tue Mar 06 2001 - 18:54:12 EST
Shivaun,
I still think it will be slow going to get it through the W3C.
How about first doing it as a PWG document and then offer it to the W3C.
Seems like a good compromise to me. That way we would have a published
document, while we are waiting for the W3C to get through their process.
Do others agree?
Carl-Uno
Carl-Uno Manros
Manager, Print Services
Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ALBRIGHT,SHIVAUN (HP-Roseville,ex1)
[mailto:shivaun_albright@HP.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:35 PM
To: 'Manros, Carl-Uno B'; ALBRIGHT,SHIVAUN (HP-Roseville,ex1);
'ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com'; don@lexmark.com
Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org
Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Charter for XHTML-Print Working Group
I would like to propose that the owners of the document get together to
discuss this issue outlining the pros and cons of the different options and
return to their respective groups with a recommendation.
It's HP's current thinking that the W3C would be a better venue for this
document. The W3C would seem the logical place since most, if not all, of
the technology in X-HTML Print has been developed in the W3C group (e.g.,
XHTML 1.0, XML, CSS). A strong motive in choosing the W3C approach would be
to promote better integration of printing with web-based technologies. One
suggested path might be to submit X-HTML Print version 1.0 as a "note" to
the W3C. This provides a long-term, vendor-neutral web site for the
document. Subsequent to this, we could start a print-focused working group
to address some of the issues we find with using XHTML for printing and
ensure this information is fed to the other W3C groups (e.g., CSS).
Regards,
Shivaun
_______________________________________________________________________
Shivaun Albright
Engineer Scientist
Internet Imaging and Printing Systems (iIPS)
Hewlett Packard
Roseville, CA
(916) 785-7191
_______________________________________________________________________
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manros, Carl-Uno B [mailto:cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:33 PM
> To: 'ALBRIGHT,SHIVAUN (HP-Roseville,ex1)';
> 'ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com'; don@lexmark.com
> Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org
> Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Charter for XHTML-Print Working Group
>
>
> Shivaun,
>
> I think we all want the spec to get out quickly.
>
> What is still unclear to me is what alternative you prefer to have it
> published by the PWG.
>
> Is it to publish the XHTML spec as one of the UPnP documents?
>
> If so, it not yet clear to me how open the UPnP specs are
> going to be once
> they are published, e.g. can anybody get hold of them and can they be
> referenced by other standards groups, and who will take on
> any maintenance
> of the spec once it is finished?
>
> Carl-Uno
>
> Carl-Uno Manros
> Manager, Print Services
> Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
> 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
> Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
> Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ALBRIGHT,SHIVAUN (HP-Roseville,ex1)
> [mailto:shivaun_albright@hp.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:11 PM
> To: 'ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com'; don@lexmark.com
> Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org
> Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Charter for XHTML-Print Working Group
>
>
> As the Chairperson of the UPNP Imaging committee I am against
> starting a
> separate working group to develop X-HTML Print. We are very close to
> locking down the BasicPrint Service which requires X-HTML
> Print and I had
> envisioned locking down the X-HTML Print document in
> parallel. It seems
> that we are winding down the X-HTML Print discussions and are close to
> agreement on a version of X-HTML Print that vendors could
> implement. In
> fact, the current UPNP Print Committee schedule has the X-HTML Print
> document listed as "done" by 3/31/01 with a subsequent vote
> to agree on the
> "final" version. I have concerns that a separate working
> committee to
> develop X-HTML Print could prolong the entire process for a UPNP Print
> standard.
>
> Regards,
>
> Shivaun Albright
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> _________
> Shivaun Albright
> Engineer Scientist
> Internet Imaging and Printing Systems (iIPS)
> Hewlett Packard
> Roseville, CA
> (916) 785-7191
> ______________________________________________________________
> _________
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com
> [mailto:ElliottBradshaw@oaktech.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 2:09 PM
> > To: don@lexmark.com
> > Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org
> > Subject: Re: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Charter for XHTML-Print Working Group
> >
> >
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > We won't be at the plenary (although Norbert will be in Tampa
> > for the UPDF
> > meeting) so here is our two cents.
> >
> > PWG seems like the right home for XHTML-Print. We like the
> > work you've
> > done and hope it becomes final soon. I wonder what impact
> > this will have
> > on the timing within the UPnP group. Since the plan there
> has been to
> > finalize this soon, would that vote go ahead? What happens
> if the PWG
> > process makes changes afterwards? Perhaps PWG should vote on
> > adopting the
> > UPnP result lock stock and barrel, or else UPnP should just
> > turn it over
> > right away.
> >
> > Also, I assume a goal is to do this in a way that the
> > Bluetooth folks can
> > adopt it as well...true?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Elliott Bradshaw
> > Director, Software Engineering
> > Oak Technology Imaging Group
> > 781 638-7534
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > don@lexmark.com
> >
> > Sent by: To:
> > pwg-announce@pwg.org
> > owner-pwg-announ cc:
> > melinda_grant@hp.com,
> > ce@pwg.org
> > fujisawa.jun@canon.co.jp,
> >
> > peter.zehler@usa.xerox.com
> > Subject:
> > PWG-ANNOUNCE> Charter for
> > 02/27/01 04:23 XHTML-Print
> > Working Group
> > PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A working group to develop the XHTML-Print "datastream" is
> > being proposed
> > for
> > the PWG. I have included a pointer to a proposed charter
> > which will be
> > discussed at the PWG Plenary in Tampa.
> >
> > ftp://ftp.pwg.org.pub/pwg/xhtml-print/charter/XHTML-Print-Char
> ter-01.doc
>
> Comments should be sent to me or brought up at the Plenary in
> Tampa. A
> mailing
> list for this project has not yet been set up yet.
>
> **********************************************
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> * Chair, IEEE MSC *
> * *
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