PMP Mail Archive: Re: PMP> Last call Printer MIB comment: simple localization

Re: PMP> Last call Printer MIB comment: simple localization

Harry Lewis (harryl@us.ibm.com)
Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:32:29 -0500

Not that I don't support good efforts to ease internationalisation... b=
ut this
topic was debated in heaps and resolved in the Printer MIB and the fact=
that
this is not a "v3" discussion is painful demonstration of the lack of a=
ttention
by the IETF to the Printer MIB. If the MIB is so unimportant that it ca=
n
languish so long... I don't see how or why it would be so urgent to enf=
orce
some new rule.

Harry Lewis - IBM Printing Systems

pmp-owner@pwg.org on 04/01/98 05:03:40 PM
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Subject: Re: PMP> Last call Printer MIB comment: simple localization

Hi Chuck,

Yes, I am saying that there is NO grandfather clause in the IETF
Policy on Charsets and Languages. In fact, it provides for
REMOVING existing RFCs from the Internet 'standards track'
for non-compliance. If you send the current I-D for the
Printer MIB (which is dated about two weeks ago, when
Lloyd changed it) to the IESG for adoption as an RFC,
it is subject (like ALL application protocols and SNMP
MIB modules) to this policy. While a waiver is technically
possible, NONE has been granted to any IETF 'standards track'
document in the last three months.

Cheers,
- Ira McDonald (High North)

PS - If you read Tom's and my proposal, you would have noticed
that SNMPv3, LDAPv3, System Application MIB, Service Location
Protocol (SLP) and many other IETF standards are compliant.
The argument of 'current practice' won't hold water with
the IESG.

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Ira Mcdonald x10962 wrote:
>
> Hi Lloyd,
>
> The change in the issue is that (as we noted) the IESG has adopted
> a Policy on Character Sets and Languages which is mandatory for
> all protocols which transfer text or names. All of the MIBs issued
> since January 1998 conform to this policy. The Printer MIB doesn't.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira McDonald (High North)

Ira,

Are you saying we need to revise the INTERNET DRAFT
dated October 15, 1997 to account for a new policy
issued in January?

Chuck Adams

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