IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> RE: Mandatory Delivery Method for

RE: IPP> RE: Mandatory Delivery Method for Notifications - Comments by April 15

From: Carl (carl@manros.com)
Date: Mon Apr 01 2002 - 13:27:05 EST

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    Don,

    OK I get it.

    There is no intension to mandate all IPP implementatations to support
    notifications, that is still an option in the overall IPP scheme.

    Carl-Uno

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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: don@lexmark.com [mailto:don@lexmark.com]
    > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:21 AM
    > To: Carl
    > Cc: ipp@pwg.org
    > Subject: RE: IPP> RE: Mandatory Delivery Method for Notifications -
    > Comments by April 15
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I just want to make sure what we do can't be twisted into a
    > redefinition of the
    > compliance criteria for a base IPP implementation.
    >
    > **********************************************
    > Don Wright don@lexmark.com
    >
    > Member, IEEE SA Standards Board
    > Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors
    > f.wright@ieee.org / f.wright@computer.org
    >
    > Director, Alliances & Standards
    > Lexmark International
    > 740 New Circle Rd
    > Lexington, Ky 40550
    > 859-825-4808 (phone) 603-963-8352 (fax)
    > **********************************************
    >
    >
    >
    > "Carl" <carl%manros.com@interlock.lexmark.com> on 04/01/2002 01:07:36 PM
    >
    > To: "Don_Wright/Lex/Lexmark.LEXMARK"@sweeper.lex.lexmark.com
    > cc: ipp%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark)
    > Subject: RE: IPP> RE: Mandatory Delivery Method for
    > Notifications - Comments by
    > April 15
    >
    >
    >
    > Don,
    >
    > I am not sure how that differs from my proposal?
    >
    > If it is mandatory, it is mandatory, not conditionally.
    > It would make no sense to have an implementation, which say supports
    > subscriptions of notifications, without also offering at least one
    > notification method, one of which has to be 'ippget'.
    >
    > Carl-Uno
    >
    > Carl-Uno Manros
    > 10701 S Eastern Ave #1117
    > Henderson, NV 89052, USA
    > Tel +1-702-617-9414
    > Fax +1-702-617-9417
    > Mob +1-310-251-7103
    > Email carl@manros.com
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: don@lexmark.com [mailto:don@lexmark.com]
    > > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:51 AM
    > > To: Carl
    > > Cc: ipp@pwg.org
    > > Subject: Re: IPP> RE: Mandatory Delivery Method for Notifications -
    > > Comments by April 15
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I would go along with making ippget CONDITIONALLY mandatory, i.e. if a
    > > notification method is supported, at least IPPGET must be.
    > >
    > > **********************************************
    > > Don Wright don@lexmark.com
    > >
    > > Member, IEEE SA Standards Board
    > > Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors
    > > f.wright@ieee.org / f.wright@computer.org
    > >
    > > Director, Alliances & Standards
    > > Lexmark International
    > > 740 New Circle Rd
    > > Lexington, Ky 40550
    > > 859-825-4808 (phone) 603-963-8352 (fax)
    > > **********************************************
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Carl" <carl%manros.com@interlock.lexmark.com> on 03/30/2002 04:30:08 PM
    > >
    > > To: "Carl" <carl%manros.com@interlock.lexmark.com>,
    > > ipp%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com
    > > cc: (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark)
    > > Subject: IPP> RE: Mandatory Delivery Method for Notifications -
    > > Comments by
    > > April 15
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Resend, with spelling corrected etc. The earlier message slipped
    > > away before
    > > I had finished it.
    > >
    > > All,
    > >
    > > Ned Freed communicated in an earlier message to the IPP WG,
    > that the IESG
    > > found it unacceptable that we had not choosen ONE mandatory
    > > delivery method
    > > for notifications. They would also like to see that delivery
    > > method mandate
    > > the use of security.
    > >
    > > As those of you who were around about two years ago remember,
    > we could not
    > > reach agreement about mandating any of the delivery methods.
    > >
    > > However, in the meantime the members of the IPPFAX project in
    > the Printer
    > > Working Group has reached an agreement that they will require all IPPFAX
    > > implementions to implement the 'ippget' delivery method, and it also
    > > requires support for TLS security.
    > >
    > > Hence, I would like to put up the following strawman proposal to
    > > the IPP WG
    > > members to satisfy the IESG comments:
    > >
    > > 1) Change the main Notifiction document to require that
    > 'ippget' delivery
    > > MUST be included for all notification implementations, but any of
    > > the other
    > > two methods can also be implemented as an option.
    > > <draft-ietf-ipp-not-spec-08.txt>
    > >
    > > 2) Put that rule also into the three delivery method documents, so it is
    > > crystal clear what the rule is.
    > > <draft-ietf-ipp-notify-get-06.txt>
    > > <draft-ietf-ipp-notify-mailto-04.txt>
    > > <draft-ietf-ipp-indp-method-06.txt>
    > >
    > > 3) Further, in the 'ippget' delivery document, we specify that
    > > TLS security
    > > MUST be supported.
    > > <draft-ietf-ipp-notify-get-06.txt>
    > >
    > > If we can reach agreement on this, I will instruct the IPP editor to
    > > implement these changes.
    > >
    > > I would like to get your reactions back on this proposal no later
    > > than April
    > > 15, 2002.
    > >
    > > Carl-Uno Manros
    > > Chair of IETF IPP WG
    > >
    > > 10701 S Eastern Ave #1117
    > > Henderson, NV 89052, USA
    > > Tel +1-702-617-9414
    > > Fax +1-702-617-9417
    > > Mob +1-310-251-7103
    > > Email carl@manros.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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