I fully agree with Keith. I have said it before, and I repeat it again, it
is now time for the members of the IPP WG to start behaving like an IETF WG.
Don't waste more of our time on non-Internet scenarios. 
Let us focus on how to PROVIDE the required security features rather than
fighting them!
I know that Paul and others are fully capable of doing that if you want to.
Carl-Uno
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Moore [mailto:moore@cs.utk.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 4:56 PM
> To: SHIVAUN_ALBRIGHT@HP-Roseville-om2.om.hp.com
> Cc: don@lexmark.com; moore@cs.utk.edu; ipp@pwg.org; 
> paulmo@microsoft.com
> Subject: Re: IPP> Re: PRO - Issue 32: Use of Basic & Digest
> Authentication 
> 
> 
> > I agree with Don.  Mandating that all printers have 
> security in order to be 
> > IPP/1.1 compliant is forcing a requirement on printers that 
> may not be 
> > warranted for their market segments.  Certain market 
> segments may not want or 
> > need security on their Printers and forcing this on the 
> device manufacturer 
> > to claim compliancy is unacceptable.
> 
> you guys are wasting your time and mine.  this issue is not 
> even on the table.
> 
> if you want an IETF standard, you've got to have strong 
> authentication.
> period, full stop, end of discussion.
> 
> Keith
>