I agree with Bill on this issue, especially that "the point may be moot"
Have you asked Kinkos how they charge in this situation?
We should stick with the agreement per the LA meeting.
Ron Bergman
Dataproducts Corp.
On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Wagner, William wrote:
> This was discussed in great detail at the LA meeting. If one agrees
> that the MIB is to provide information on what the printer does, which
> may not necessarily agree with what the rate structures may or may not
> be at a particular place at a particular time, then I think the
> contention that sending a sheet side through transfer and fixing steps
> constitutes making an impression. The question of how much colorant is
> put on that page is a separate one. If it is a single period, a fully
> colored page or a blank page, colorant use is a different characteristic
> from impression, and one which could be instrumented.
>
> In most page printers, the information that a page has no marking is not
> readily available. The page goes though the same processes, takes pretty
> much the same time and the same wear and tear on the mechanism. I
> suggest that, unless the printer has a way of separately ejecting such
> sheet sides, from a printer point of view, treating a blank side
> differently is an artificial distinction.
>
> The point may be moot. I am told that commercial duplication houses
> charge by the sheet, with perhaps a different sheet rate for duplex (but
> no distinction for blank sides). A large in-house reports person told
> me that there are no blank pages; there is a header or footer, a page
> number, or a "This page intentionally left blank" message.
>
> I suggest that a measure of importance from those actually concerned
> with the accounting be obtained before the MIB imposes the derivation of
> another parameter on the printer.
>
> W. A. Wagner (Bill Wagner)
> OSICOM/DPI
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jay Martin [SMTP:jkm@underscore.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 11:50 PM
> > To: Tom Hastings
> > Cc: jmp@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org
> > Subject: IPP> Re: JMP> URGENT: Should impressions include blank
> > last page back sides or not?
> >
> > Sorry, but I must agree with Angelo Caruso with the position
> > that most folks are going to be pretty upset if they are
> > charged for blanks sides of sheets. Can't say that I like
> > that idea at all.
> >
> > ...jay
> >
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