IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> Re: MIME types

Re: IPP> Re: MIME types

Jay Martin (jkm@underscore.com)
Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:16:59 -0400

As I understand it (and Larry would know best), the standard MIME
type of "application/octet-stream" is the universal equivalent of
"go fish" in the web/email worlds.

I think IPP should follow this de facto standard and NOT devise
a new MIME type (such as "application/auto-sense"), as no real
value appears to be added by this approach.

...jay

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Tom Hastings wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> Thanks for the help on MIME-type mapping. I've taken on an action item
> to make a strawman proposal for next week's IPP meeting.
>
> So could the PWG forward a whole bunch of registration proposals of the
> form:
>
> 'application/vnd.xxx-yyy
>
> where xxx is the company and yyy is the name of the PDL using the current
> IANA printer-language registration list (from the Printer MIB)
>
> except for the ones that are already registered (Postscript, PDF, and PCL)?
>
> A few questions about PDLs, that aren't from a particular vendor:
>
> for langSimpleText, you recommended: "text/plain"
>
> and Harald has recommended "application/octet-stream" for the
> automatic sensing, though he also indicated we could make up a
> more specific one. If we did want to make up a more specific one,
> since IPP is on standard track, wouldn't it be something like:
>
> "application/auto-sense"
>
> and we would have to supply a specification for reference in the
> IANA registration. Could we just reference a separate appendix of the
> IPP Model document for the meaning of "application/auto-sense"?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Tom
>
> At 22:21 09/10/97 PDT, Larry Masinter wrote:
> >> We also agreed that those Printer enums that already have registered
> >> MIME-types: 'application/postscript', 'application/pdf', and vnd.hp-PCL
> >> should use those MIME-types.
> >>
> >> ISSUE: Should the PWG register the rest as 'application/xxx' because IPP is
> >> on standards track or should the PWG register the rest as 'vnd.vv-xx'?
> >> 'application/xxx' requires a document specifying the semantics of each
> >> MIME-type.
> >>
> >
> >Uh, MIME types have two parts: a top level and a subtype. The top level
> >for most printer documents is "application", unless you can argue that
> >it fits under "image". (I believe that pdf could arguably be represented
> >as 'image' rather than 'application', but they chose application/pdf.)
> >
> >Under the new rules, you either get an unadorned name ("postscript") or
> >an adorned one ("vnd") based on whether the type is standards track.
> >Postscript and PDF are grandfathered in, since they were named before
> >the
> >rule was made; if they were being reregistered today they'd be known
> >as application/vnd.adobe-ps and application/vnd.adobe-pdf, I believe.
> >
> >I think that almost all printer formats that are not already registered
> >would most likely go into the "vnd." hierarchy since they're not
> >standards
> >track.
> >
> >Larry
> >--
> >http://www.parc.xerox.com/masinter
> >
> >