IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> MOD - Pushback on removing job-hold-until/job-print-after and

Re: IPP> MOD - Pushback on removing job-hold-until/job-print-after and

Robert Herriot (Robert.Herriot@Eng.Sun.COM)
Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:34:51 -0800

> From hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com Tue Feb 18 23:38:40 1997
>
> Since Job-Hold-After and Job-Print-After etc are not extremely critical
...
>
> TH> Did you consider dropping the relative form of time. I see no value
> in specifying that a job be held for a relative amount of time.
> But an absolute time or a time period seems simple enough. How
> about just those? What were the problems with them? If not, lets
> keep it in. If there are, I agree that this attribute isn't as
> critical as others.

The problem with absolute time is that it doesn't work in the job
template, either for supported values for the default value, unless
and an administrator changes the Printer's values frequently.

The concept was getting more and more difficult to make work and it
seemed to be of marginal value.

>
>
> Item 8:
>
> The same (see Item 7) is true for page-select. Remove it from IPP/1.0.
>
>
> TH> I feel much more strongly about keeping page-select, since
> it is something that you can do on every Windows and MAC today
> (and for many years). How can IPP V1.0 not support what is
> done by 100M clients today?

We used the same reasoning here. The syntax of the value was complex
and the feature didn't seem to be very important in the IPP context.

You are right that a user can select pages in Windows and MACs today, but
the selection does not stay as an attribute, the driver makes the
selections and produces a PostScript/PCL with fewer pages.

What this IPP attribute allows is for someone to print a subset of
pages of a text or PostScript file. Is that important?