IFX Mail Archive: RE: IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax

RE: IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax

From: Carl Kugler (kugler@us.ibm.com)
Date: Fri Feb 16 2001 - 11:28:53 EST

  • Next message: Dan Wing: "RE: IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax"

    Wouldn't a universal character encoding scheme like UTF-8 solve the
    character set problem?

         -Carl

    MAEDA toru <maeda.toru@canon.co.jp>@pwg.org on 02/16/2001 03:11:43 AM

    Sent by: owner-ifx@pwg.org

    To: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
    cc: jdahmen@atl.mediaone.net, "'Wagner,William'"
          <wwagner@netsilicon.com>, ifx@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: IFX> Legal Requirements on Classic fax

    Wing-san

    Thank you very much for the clarification.

    "And an ifax device would need
    to understand all sorts of different character sets to interpret all
    sorts of different headers."

    This idea is not practical, so the fax sends the image header
    on top of the page and the coded Sender ID over T.30 protocol.

    Regards,

    Toru Maeda

    At 08:21 01/02/14 -0800, Dan Wing wrote:
    >On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:07 +0900, MAEDA toru wrote:
    >
    > > Wing-san
    > >
    > > I understand that all common mailers, including Eudora, Netscape, pine,
    > > and many others, are capable of handling RFC2047-encoded headers.
    > > But printing or imaging RFC2047-encoded headers are different
    capability.
    >
    >Agreed.
    >
    > > I am not sure that you can print out my email signature in Japanese
    below.
    >
    >Of course not; it doesn't identify itself as a MIME type in a different
    >character set -- it is merely some ASCII embedded in a normal message.
    >
    >But you're right - even if it did, my mailer (pine) doesn't try to
    >display it on the VT100 emulator I use. And an ifax device would need
    >to understand all sorts of different character sets to interpret all
    >sorts of different headers.
    >
    >The advantage of using computer-readable headers, of course, is allowing
    >for sorting, searching, and other computer-assisted operations. That
    >can only be done with image data using unreliable OCR.
    >
    >-d
    >
    > > -----------------------------------
    > > $B%-%d%N%s3t<02q<R(B
    > > $B1GA|;vL35!(BMIE$B?d?J%;%s%?!<(B
    > > $B1GA|;vL35!(BMIE$BBh#23+H/It(B
    > > $BA0ED!!E0(B
    > > 146-8501$B!!El5~ETBgED6h2<4];R#3!]#3#0!]#2(B
    > > $BEEOC!!(B03-3757-9738$B!"(BFAX$B!!(B03-3757-8205
    > > -----------------------------------
    > >
    > > Toru Maeda
    > >
    > >
    > > At 18:46 01/02/13 -0800, Dan Wing wrote:
    > > >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:29 +0900, MAEDA toru wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Jim-san
    > > > >
    > > > > We designed that the IFAX header is similer as G3 header.
    > > > > The IFAX header consists of date, time,mail address of transmitter
    and
    > > > page
    > > > > number.
    > > > > One of reason that fax header is send as image form is character
    font
    > > > > converting to image.
    > > > > The receiver could not print the information form transmitter
    > > > > when Japanese characters are send from the transmitter in the
    > information.
    > > >
    > > >Hi.
    > > >
    > > >RFC2047-encoded headers can handle non-ASCII character sets, including
    > > >Japanese. Almost all common mailers, including Eudora, Netscape,
    pine,
    > > >and many others, are capable of handling RFC2047-encoded headers when
    both
    > > >sending and receiving messages.
    > > >
    > > >-d
    > > >
    > > > > I know that the user may not understand the Japanese characters in
    the
    > > > > image header.
    > > > >
    > > > > Regards,
    > > > >
    > > > > Toru Maeda
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > >
    > > --------------------
    > > MAEDA TORU
    > > MIE Development Div. 2
    > > CANON Inc.
    > > --------------------
    > >

    -----------------------------------
    $B%-%d%N%s3t<02q<R(B
    $B1GA|;vL35!(BMIE$B?d?J%;%s%?!<(B
    $B1GA|;vL35!(BMIE$BBh#23+H/It(B
    $BA0ED!!E0(B
    146-8501$B!!El5~ETBgED6h2<4];R#3!]#3#0!]#2(B
    $BEEOC!!(B03-3757-9738$B!"(BFAX$B!!(B03-3757-8205
    -----------------------------------



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