Hi Bill,
I was complicit in this confusion of MFD Alert Groups scope
in December F2F (I hadn't read the spec in several years).
There never *were* any actual Alerts named - just new subunit
groups (Scanner, FaxModem), as in the PWG Semantic Model.
Adding new system level security alerts is a small and reasonable
addition for PrtAlertCodeTC.
Adding specific alerts for the largely unmodelled Scanner and
ScanMediaPath and so on would be a *large* change of scope.
And not feasible, unless we decide to write a Scan Device MIB
and Fax Device MIB - I don't want to go there...
Cheers,
- Ira
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM, William Wagner <wamwagner at comcast.net>wrote:
> Hi Ira,
>>>> I will post WIMS meeting slides with updated links later today.
>>>> Presently plenary slides do not include CIM or alerts links. I assume
> alerts will change Thursday regardless.
>>>> I do not understand your scope issue. I had pulled the MFD alerts comments
> from previous minutes and do not see where I have increased the scope. You
> can certainly clarify the limits on what you intend to do during the
> meeting.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill Wagner
>> *From:* Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:19 PM
> *To:* William Wagner; Michael Sweet; Ira McDonald
> *Cc:* wims at pwg.org> *Subject:* CIM Print and MFD Alert Groups - please update PWG agenda and
> WIMS slides
>>>> Hi Mike and Bill,
>> I would appreciate it if you guys could add links to my releases
> yesterday to the PWG F2F agenda and the WIMS WG slides for:
> (a) revised CIM Print MOFs; and (b) revised MFD Alert Groups
> spec.
>>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/cim/mofinput/ira-20110131.zip>>ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/pmp/wd/wd-pmpmfdalerts10-20110131-rev.pdf>> We have a *major* scope issue in the current WIMS WG slides.
>> The existing MFD Alert Groups spec ONLY defines new values
> for PrtAlertGroupTC. It does NOT define any actual new values
> for PrtAlertCodeTC for the new subunits.
>> Adding specific alerts for Scanner, FaxModem, or security would
> be a major expansion of scope.
>> And adding specific alerts for Scanner, FaxModem, etc. (rather
> than using the existing subunit generic alerts from Printer MIB v2)
> would be architecturally risky because...
>> We do NOT plan to develop a ScanDevice or FaxDevice MIB at
> present (and I don't want to tackle them now).
>> Comments?
>> Cheers,
> - Ira (Editor of MFD Alert Groups)
>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
>http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc> mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com> Christmas through April:
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>>>
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