We can add Ira's observation to the agenda for this Wednesday, 12 Noon.
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I think that Harry will not be available for this week's concalls. So SC discussion may be a while off. However, the quoted message apperas to be in response to a proposal to extend W3C XML Schema to accomodate some problems found by the IETF XCON WG. I suggest that the first questions is to what extent do these problems apply to PWG Schema.
With respect to other WIMS WG topics:
a. Minutes: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/minutes/wims_051116.pdf
b. Abstracting the WIMS protocol spec.
However, if we do not have a reasonable attedance, there would be little sense in discussing these rather significant topics.
Bill Wagner
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> Hi folks,
>> Topic for next WIMS telecon and next PWG Steering Committee telecon.
>>> [The context is describing constraints in schema for XML documents]
>> Below is a thought-provoking comment recently from Tim Bray (Textuality)
> about the misuse of W3C XML Schema in IETF specs where ISO Relax NG would
> be more appropriate.
>> Tim's _first_ sentence (not quoted below) was:
>> "My input: The proposal is an attempt to work around one of the many known
>> limitations of W3C XML Schema. It also seems to increase the complexity
> and
> decrease the readability of your XML."
>> It's worth considering whether our PWG standard SM/1.0 printing schema and
> the new WIMS imaging system schema should be translated to Relax NG.
>> Cheers,
> - Ira
>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> phone: +1-906-494-2434
> email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com>> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-netconf at ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-netconf at ops.ietf.org]On
> Behalf Of Phil Shafer
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:17 AM
> To: netconf at ops.ietf.org> Subject: Tim Bray on RelaxNG
>>>http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xml-dir/current/msg00108.html>> As a general practice, I would advise the IETF to specify XML
> languages using the simpler, more general, more flexible, more
> interoperable RelaxNG, which is also an ISO standard by the
> way. For example, Atompub did this in draft-ietf-atompub-format-11,
> which is now a proposed standard and waiting for its RFC number.
> In particular, the kind of extensibility you want for XCON would
> be easily modeled in RelaxNG without the need for this kind of
> egregious kludge. -Tim Bray
>>> Can we revisit the use of Relax-NG for netconf (before we start
> resorting to egregious kludges ;^)?
>> Thanks,
> Phil
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