Hi Mike,
I have received some valuable feedback from my colleague that I wanted to share.
Canon currently treats 215x345mm as “Indian Legal”, so our understanding is that as long as this is included in PWG spec, it is acceptable.
“In particular, for om_india-fs_215x345mm, please decide whether to call it in localised "FS" in accordance with the somewhat complicated Indian standard, perhaps "Legal" or "Ledger" as it may be sold in the local market, or "Indian Legal" as Canon refers to it. When making this decision in PWG, please also consider that Canon uses the term "Indian Legal" or "Legal(India)" to distinguish it from the US region’s Legal size, since Canon printer supports both region's Legal paper sizes (India and US) together. That naming would be easier for user to distinguish.”
For reference, hear are links to our manuals illustrating this usage:
* https://ij.manual.canon/ij/webmanual/PrinterDriver/M/iB4100%20series/1.0/EN/PPG/dg-c_paper_type02.html
* https://oip.manual.canon/USRMA-7917-zz-SSS-120-enUV/contents/devu-mcn-papers.html
Regarding the photo media sizes (13x22”, 20x30”, and 30x90cm, as well as the Indian Legal sizes, we would like to know the tentative timeline for when the localized names will be included in MSN2.2.
Thanks for your continued attention to these details. Let me know if you need any further information from our end.
Thanks,
Charles
From: Charles Armstrong
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Subject: RE: [IPP] Registration of new media sizes to IANA IPP registry
Mike,
Looks good to me. Let me confirm with my colleagues and I’ll get back to you.
Thanks
Charles
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Subject: Re: [IPP] Registration of new media sizes to IANA IPP registry
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Charles,
WRT to the following requested size name:
om_india-legal_215x345mm
it seems like there is still some confusion about its standardization. Based on the information below we might want:
om_india-legal-1_215x335mm
om_india-fs_215x345mm
om_india-legal-2_215x355mm
Thoughts?
> On Apr 24, 2025, at 5:36 PM, Christoph Päper via ipp <ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>> wrote:
>> Christoph Päper <christoph.paeper at crissov.de<mailto:christoph.paeper at crissov.de>>:
>>>> Charles Armstrong via ipp <ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>>:
>>>>>> Canon would like to request PWG to add following new media sizes to IANA IPP registry and MSN2.1.
>>> English Localized Name Self-Describing Name
>>> Legal(India) om_india-legal_215x345mm
>>>>>>>> Is there a reference for the Indian size being called ”Legal“? Apparently it is Foolscap Folio (8.5 × 13.5 inches) rounded to the closest half-centimeter. That’s halfway between US Legal at 14 inches and US Government Legal at 13 inches.
>> My sincere apologies, I failed to see that there is an Amendment from 2022 to the national standard IS 1064 from 1980, which luckily are freely available online.
>> Without further explanation, it records two additional formats: “FS” and “Legal”. Both are 215 mm wide. The former, FS, is 345 mm tall, i.e. the size requested by Canon, whereas the latter, Legal, is the only one to have two different values given for its height: 335 mm and 355 mm. However, it is unclear whether those are alternatives or minimum and maximum.
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