FYI - Discussed at PWG Steering Committee today - forwarded for interested
contributors on IPP mailing list.
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From: Paul Tykodi
Date: Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 12:45 PM
Subject: FW: Question - CSS Working Group Activities & W3C Publishing
Business Group Goals
Hi
This forwarded email thread is FYI …
I hope that everyone is having a nice Labor Day holiday.
In the early 2010’s, as part of my PWG activities, I monitored the W3C CSS
mailing list and the W3C Digital Publishing Interest Group mailing list for
print related postings. When IDPF and W3C merged, the W3C Digital
Publishing Interest Group was disbanded and replaced by the PBG (Publishing
Business Group). The W3C initiative Bill attended back in 2013 “Publishing
Using the Open Web Platform” seemed to run out of energy when the DPIG was
disbanded.
I recently received an invitation to an upcoming CSS Working Group meeting
(I think just because I was formerly subscribed to the CSS mailing list),
which reminded me of the previous W3C PWG focused activities from the 2012
– 2015 timeframe.
Best Regards,
/Paul
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*To:* Ivan Herman <ivan at w3.org>; Liisa McCloy-Kelley <
LMcCloy-Kelley at randomhouse.com>; Daihei Shiohama (塩濱大平) <shiohama at mediado.jp
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*Subject:* Re: Question - CSS Working Group Activities & W3C Publishing
Business Group Goals
Dear Ivan
Good morning and thank you very much for the information.
The topic seems important to me for all those who have
single-source-publishing flows: XML to PDF for printing or HTML to PDF for
printing.
In Italy (and Europe) there are not many, but still it makes sense in my
opinion.
Many companies that produce PDF files automatically (bills, airline
tickets, contracts, etc.) use these technologies. It would be interesting
to also address the issue of producing accessible PDFs from these
technologies (XML, XHTML, CSS).
All my best
Cristina
*Da: *Ivan Herman <ivan at w3.org>
*Data: *lunedì 4 settembre 2023, 07:12
*A: *Liisa McCloy-Kelley <LMcCloy-Kelley at randomhouse.com>, Cristina
Mussinelli - Fondazione LIA <cristina.mussinelli at fondazionelia.org>, Daihei
Shiohama <shiohama at mediado.jp>
*Cc: *"'PBG Steering Committee (Public)'" <public-publishing-sc at w3.org>, <
ptykodi at tykodi.com>
*Oggetto: *Fwd: Question - CSS Working Group Activities & W3C Publishing
Business Group Goals
Liisa, Christina, Daihei,
please find, below, a mail I have just received from Paul Tykodi, from the
IEEE Printer Working Group. I would think that exploring how far the
Publishing Industry is interested by the development of CSS print would be
of importance, and maybe it is a good idea for the PBG to organize some
sort of a seminar/meeting, inviting the people from the PWG but also the
chairs of the CSS WG.
We may also think about having a short discussion about it at TPAC next
week.
Cheers
Ivan
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*From: *"Paul Tykodi" <ptykodi at tykodi.com>
*Subject: Question - CSS Working Group Activities & W3C Publishing Business
Group Goals*
*Date: *1 September 2023 at 23:05:49 CEST
*To: *<ivan at w3.org>
*Reply-To: *<ptykodi at tykodi.com>
*Message-Id: *<032901d9dd18$168a3450$439e9cf0$@tykodi.com>
Hi Ivan,
I haven’t posted into the W3C mailing lists I monitor for quite some time
so I wanted to wish you belated congratulations on your retirement!
I am still participating in the activities of the IEEE-ISTO Printer Working
Group standards developing organization and I am currently the Co-chair of
the PWG Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) Working Group. The PWG is the
standards body, which originally developed the CSS-Print (
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-xpcssprt10-20030331-5102.2.html)
and XHTML-Print (
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-xpxprt10-20030331-5102.1.pdf)
standards.
Bill Wagner also represented the PWG and gave the attached presentation at
the W3C Workshop titled “Publishing and the Open Web Platform”
https://www.w3.org/2012/12/global-publisher/ held at the Centre Pompidou in
Paris, France back in 2013.
Today, I received an email notification about an upcoming meeting of the
W3C CSS Working Group. It reminded me that an active CSS Working Group
might offer an opportunity to improve the printing support defined by CSS.
As far as I know, there has not been a lot of energy put into most of the
following specifications or initiatives in the recent past:
Priorities for CSS from the Digital Publishing Interest Group -
https://www.w3.org/TR/dpub-css-priorities/
CSS Print Profile - https://www.w3.org/TR/css-print/ - CSS Working Group
note says the working group has discontinued work on the document
XHTML-Print - Second Edition - https://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/
CSS Paged Media Module Level 3 - https://www.w3.org/TR/css-page-3/
If the W3C Publishing Business Group might want to advocate for some
specific CSS based improvements focused on printing/publishing during this
latest iteration of CSS Working Group activities, I believe the Printer
Working Group members would likely be willing to participate in W3C CSS
working group related activities focused on improving how the CSS standard
supports printing/publishing activities.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
/Paul
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