[IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods

[IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods

wamwagner at comcast.net wamwagner at comcast.net
Thu Feb 28 22:50:22 UTC 2019


Smith,

Sorry,  my confusion continues. Your new Authorization example may be valid, but it seems odd to me that someone would have an account in a printer but not have authority to print at all.  Conditional authority, restricting use to certain times or restricting color, or quantity, etc. would be more realistic, but that is at the IPP level  and does not  appear to be addressed in this specification. 

The title is Authentication  Methods, and although I may have missed it, I do not think that it does much with authorization (at least not by the printer), which would occur after successful Authentication. Perhaps the Authorization  use case should  be put in the out of scope section?
Thanks, Bill W.



From: Rizzo, Christopher via ipp
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 4:12 PM
To: Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect); Rick Yardumian
Cc: PWG IPP WG Reflector
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods

This update looks good to me.

Thanks,
Chris

Christopher Rizzo
Xerox Corporation
GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
26600 SW Parkway Ave.
Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251
Phone: (585) 314-6936
Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com

"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

From: "Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect)" <smith.kennedy at hp.com>
Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 12:36 PM
To: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>, Rick Yardumian <RYardumian at ciis.canon.com>
Cc: PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] WG Last Call: IPP Authentication Methods

Thanks for the feedback Chris! I also received this feedback from Canon's Rick Yardumian (CC'ed). In my LCRC draft, I've resolved this issue by rewriting 3.3.2 to more meaningfully describe an authorization failure. 

Here's the rewrite. Any objections or suggestions?

Harry is also visiting Andy's office and wants to print from his laptop. He uses his laptop to discover available printers, and selects one listed. The printer is configured to limit access to only authorized users. 

The printer challenges the laptop for authentication, and the laptop presents an authentication dialog to Harry. Harry has an account, and enters the account's username and password. The printer accepts these credentials, but that account is not authorized to access that printer. Harry's laptop shows a notification dialog expressing this to Harry. Harry clicks “OK” and looks for a pencil.

Smith

On Feb 28, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com> wrote:

Just curious, but section 3.3 Exceptions of this document has sections 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 which are pretty much exact duplicates of each other, exception being Lisa vs. Harry. Was this intentional?

Thanks,
Chris


Christopher Rizzo
Xerox Corporation

GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology

26600 SW Parkway Ave.

Wilsonville, OR 97070-9251

Phone: (585) 314-6936

Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com

"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer

On 1/17/19, 4:00 PM, "ipp on behalf of Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect)" <ipp-bounces at pwg.org on behalf of smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:

Greetings,

This message begins the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Authentication Methods best practice draft, available at:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.odt
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117.pdf
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20190117-rev.pdf

Please respond with any feedback or comments by doing a "reply all" to this message.

This last call will end on January 31, 2019 at 10pm PT.

Cheers,
Smith

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