[IPP] Canonical IPP way to set job-sheets to a different paper/tray/medium?

[IPP] Canonical IPP way to set job-sheets to a different paper/tray/medium?

Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) smith.kennedy at hp.com
Tue Dec 11 17:07:16 UTC 2018


Ah, good point!

Should there be an addition to System Service to support banner page management? Or are we going to consider banner pages a resource managed out-of-band of IPP? System Service doesn't seem to have that currently.

Smith



On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com<mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Smith,

Except that Client-side banner pages can't include info known only to the Printer
(which typically is included in banner pages) such as actual time of printing.

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On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:05 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com<mailto:smith.kennedy at hp.com>> wrote:
If the Printer supported IPP "overrides", it might also be possible for a driver upstream of the IPP client to support this as a "driver feature" by adding a page to the start and/or end of the Job's Document and using "overrides" to specify the media source / type for the added banner pages.

On Dec 10, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com<mailto:msweet at apple.com>> wrote:

There isn't anything specifically you can do in CUPS for the banners - it will use the same paper/tray settings for the banners as for the rest of the job.

There is a job-sheets-col attribute (defined in PWG 5100.3: Production Printing Attributes - Set 1) that provides more control.  At present this attribute is not supported by CUPS.


On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:17 PM, pipitas <pipitas at gmail.com<mailto:pipitas at gmail.com>> wrote:

What is the canonical IPP-ish way to request printing of a job-sheet on different media (or media drawn from a different paper tray)?

I remember many years ago to have hacked some PostScript files for a big institutional customer who required red separator sheets because thousands of their students shared a few dozen "public" printers: I then equipped the PostScript/banner files with some 'setpagedevice' statements, saved them to /usr/share/cups/banners/ and, presto, whenever such a sheet was requested it printed from the paper tray specified by setpagedevice.

Is there an IPP-defined job attribute that lets me order job-sheets to be printed on a specific medium?

Now that modern CUPS doesn't by default use banners/job-sheets any more which are PostScript files, what is another valid way to do achieve this with PDF files (or even with application/vnd.cups-banner files)?

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