Hi Paul,
As Mike pointed out, using IEEE 1284 Device ID to do PDL-stream tweaks in
IPP Everywhere was
never a legitimate implementation. Vendors who honored IEEE 1284 Device ID
info over the much
more authoritative IPP Printer status attributes have broken
implementations anyway.
I agree with Mike - delete all mention of IEEE 1284 Device ID from IPP
Everywhere (with which it
is incompatible).
Cheers,
- Ira
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Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi at tykodi.com> wrote:
> Hi Ira,
>> My thought is that some vendor developed IPP Everywhere implementations
> may tweak PDF or JPEG processing on the client (i.e. sender) side for
> certain 1284 device ID’s.
>> If we make retiring them a two step process, we probably would give any
> developers that have done this time to adjust their code.
>> I am Ok with removing them from IPP Everywhere but am just asking about
> best way to implement change so that developers have time to react.
>> Best Regards,
>> /Paul
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Paul - you can't submit a 1284 Device ID as a command in IPP - it's a
> declarative
> property only.
>> Mike and Smith - certainly we should drop 1284 Device ID from IPP
> Everywhere,
> which is about driverless printing.
>> Cheers,
> - Ira
>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi at tykodi.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>> Where I believe some vendors use them to send pre and post job processing
>> device specific commands, I don’t believe we should fully retire support
>> for the 1284 device ID’s at this time.
>>>>>>>> Are you planning to make them an OPTIONAL requirement?
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> /Paul
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>>>>>>>> *From:* ipp <ipp-bounces at pwg.org> *On Behalf Of *Kennedy, Smith
>> (Wireless & Standards Architec)
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2018 10:38 PM
>> *To:* Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com>
>> *Cc:* PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp at pwg.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [IPP] RFC: Drop 1284 device ID requirements from IPP
>> Everywhere 1.1
>>>>>>>> I approve and second this!
>>>>>>>> Smith
>>>> /**
>> Smith Kennedy
>> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
>> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC
>> Forum / USB-IF
>> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group
>> HP Inc.
>> */
>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:46 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> All,
>>>> As 1284 device IDs are only needed for printer driver selection, I'd like
>> remove all of the 1284 device ID requirements from IPP Everywhere 1.1.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> _________________________________________________________
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