In my "pending" queue. I'll be sending updates to Ira "soon"...
On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>> Where are we with the IANA registrations for these keywords?
>> Smith
>>>> On 2014-07-15, at 1:06 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>> I agree. All of this proposal looks right (with Smith's clarifications).
>>>> Cheers,
>> - Ira
>>>>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>> Smith,
>>>> True about output-bin-actual being optional, so I agree with the proposed tweaks.
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > A few tweaks:
>> >
>> > 'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.
>> >
>> > 'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.
>> >
>> > Since the “xxx-actual” attributes are only required by IPP/2.2 as per 5100.12, it is at least possible that a printer has implemented output bins but hasn’t implemented “xxx-actual” attribute support.
>> >
>> > Smith
>> >
>> > /**
>> > Smith Kennedy
>> > ATB Wireless Architect - PPS
>> > Hewlett-Packard Co.
>> > */
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2014-07-14, at 3:11 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> We discussed the proposed values for the "output-bin" attribute at today's IPP concall and have some minor changes to the definitions along with a larger clarification for the "printer-output-tray" attribute.
>> >>
>> >> However, one of the conclusions may need to change since after further research it appears that PWG 5100.8 did indeed define the "output-bin-actual" attribute as "1setOf (type2 keyword | name(MAX)))".
>> >>
>> >> Thus, I would like to update the definition of the "output-bin" values to be as follows:
>> >>
>> >> 'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>> >>
>> >> 'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>> >>
>> >> That would also imply that the 'auto' value should assign the chosen tray as well:
>> >>
>> >> 'auto'; All of the output for the Job is sent to an implementation-defined output tray based on the Job Template and Document Template attributes. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>> >>
>> >> ....
>> >>
>> >> Since the "printer-output-tray" attribute is linked to the "output-bin-supported" attribute, we discussed how to report logical trays such as 'auto', 'collator', and 'job-separator'. We decided the following:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Logical trays are provided by the service, so while they will be listed in the "printer-output-tray" attribute they will NOT be listed in the Printer MIB prtOutputTray table.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Logical trays are reported in "printer-output-tray" using a 'type' value of 'other' (1). The values of the other fields are calculated in an implementation-defined behavior (roll-up status, etc.)
>> >>
>> >> 3. The same behavior should be applied to "printer-input-tray" for the "media-source" value of 'auto'.
>> >>
>> >> Comments?
>> >>
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