Hi,
Harald Alvestrand replied to Carl-Uno Manros (see below):
We do - which is why the phrase "reasonably and personally known to
the submitter" in RFC 3667 / 3668 is so important.
But "reasonably and personally" is NOT part of the IPR statement
required at the beginning of every submitted I-D (without which
the I-D Editor will no longer publish any I-D).
Here's the relevant verbatim quote from "1id-guidelines.txt":
All Internet-Drafts must begin with the following intellectual
property rights (IPR) statement:
"By submitting this Internet-Draft, I certify that any applicable
patent or other IPR claims of which I am aware have been disclosed, or
will be disclosed, and any of which I become aware will be disclosed,
in accordance with RFC 3668."
Personally, I'm not writing any more I-Ds. Because there's not any
limitation in this IPR boilerplate about patents or IPR of _other_
parties that the editor may be or become aware of.
Cheers,
- Ira
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ipp at pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp at pwg.org]On Behalf Of
carl at manros.com
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:22 AM
To: Ipp at Pwg. Org
Subject: IPP> FW: Copyright statements in drafts
All,
Regarding some of the new required text in Internet Drafts.
This has been discussed for a while on the IETF Chairs list.
I raised a similar qustion to the one brougth up by Ira.
See my question and the official answer from the IETF Chair Harald
Alvestrand below.
Carl-Uno
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-----Original Message-----
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:harald at alvestrand.no]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 10:02 AM
To: carl at manros.com; wgchairs at ietf.org
Subject: RE: Copyright statements in drafts
--On 3. juni 2004 15:49 -0700 carl at manros.com wrote:
> Hi,
>> I am not sure whether I missed this in the discussion, but I can see some
> problems with Copyright statements in early drafts. There may well be
> people or organizations which already hold patents or copyrights for
> things that find their way into I-Ds. If they are not actively involved
> in that particular WG, they may not discover any infringements until the
> RFC is in IETF wide Last Call. Hopefully we provide for Copyright
> objections at that stage, even if there has been umpteen earlier I-Ds on
> the subject.
We do - which is why the phrase "reasonably and personally known to the
submitter" in RFC 3667 / 3668 is so important.
Harald