IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Usage [adding an IPP refe rence and a clarification]

IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Usage [adding an IPP refe rence and a clarification]

Hastings, Tom N hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com
Fri Apr 20 18:21:55 EDT 2001


Ron,

I did a lousy job of proof-reading the Appendix.

I believe that the Media Size Self Describing Name can be used as keyword
values of the "media" Job Template attribute, including the
"media-supported", "media-default", and "media-ready" Printer attributes.
This is the most important contribution of the Media Standard to IPP/1.1
usage.  So an extra line should be added to table about IPP/1.1:

Media Size Self Describing Name

keyword values of the "media" Job Template attribute, including the
"media-default", "media-ready", and "media-supported" Printer attributes 

I also think that we need to add the phrase "keyword values of the" in front
of the entry for using Media Type Names as values of the "media" attribute,
so that it is clear that these Name values are to be represented in IPP as
'keyword' values, not as 'name' values, since the "media" attribute has
both: "media" (type3 keyword | name(MAX)).  This clarification is
particularly important since our PWG Media Standardized Names standards
calls these values: "Names", not "keywords".  Without such a clarification,
we could have serious interoperability problems.  Remember that a client
should try to localize a 'keyword', but not a 'name', before displaying it
to a user.  Also a 'name' value has a natural language associated with it,
either explicitly or implicitly, while a 'keyword' does not.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: RonBergman at aol.com [mailto:RonBergman at aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 16:04
To: harryl at us.ibm.com
Cc: hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com; ipp at pwg.org
Subject: RE: IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Usage


Harry,

This doesn't really commit us either way, but it does
lower the expectation.  I don't see any problem.

     Ron

In a message dated Wed, 18 Apr 2001  5:03:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
"Harry Lewis" <harryl at us.ibm.com> writes:

<< Why conjecture about what we will or won't attempt to do in the future? 
Why say anything?
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Harry Lewis 
IBM Printing Systems 
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RonBergman at aol.com
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04/17/2001 08:17 PM

 
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        Subject:        RE: IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Usage

 

Tom,

Good suggestion!  I am going to reword slightly.
"...this document; existing references will suffice."
Too many "standards" in the original! 

   Ron

In a message dated Tue, 17 Apr 2001  9:56:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
"Hastings, Tom N" <hastings at cp10.es.xerox.com> writes:

<< Ron,

We might also add a sentence to indicate that we don't intend to keep
updating this Appendix when additional standards are published that could
use our names and/or reference our Media standard, such as UPnP.  How 
about
adding the following to the end of the first paragraph:

No attempt will be made to update this appendix when additional standards
reference this standard; such references to this standard will suffice.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: RonBergman at aol.com [mailto:RonBergman at aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 09:24
To: ipp at pwg.org
Subject: IPP> Appendix to Reference Exisitng Usage


Here is my proposal for a reference appendix that defines the usage of 
media
names in existing standards.  This is a compact version of the recent
proposal from Tom Hastings.

I intend to include this appendix in the next version of the Media Names
specification.

   Ron Bergman
   Hitachi Koki Imaging Solutions

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