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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Ira,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Obviously, you may take the suggestions or not as you wish. My reaction to your draft was that the information was there, but it seemed to lack direction. (I am still not happy with my cut, but as you point out, we are short in time.) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I moved your IETF activity statement up to bolster the point that things are happening in power management, and that was the most recent event. Certainly, remove mention of the IETF activity entirely if you wish (including your question 10))<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do not recall support for the history, and with the reduction in the other material, it did take up a lot of the article. It is unclear to me how this affects MPSA members.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You are correct that the scale should be 1-5 on question 1. This scale approach is a very typical mode of survey question, and provides more useful information than a simple yes/no. I tend to dislike yes/no questions myself, since things are seldom that clearly one way or the other. I agree that, if you are making a presentation to a management sort, they typically prefer a black or white response. But the real answer is some shade of gray and I suggest that we are more interested in a valid understanding than material for a specious argument.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My draft was intended as suggesting a slightly different approach to presenting the information. I will not press it further. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> William Wagner; Ira McDonald<br><b>Cc:</b> wims@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WIMS] Draft of MPSA Power article/survey (28 Nov 2010)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br><br>Well - all these changes will take awhile to digest.<br><br>At our last WIMS teleconference there was support for leaving<br>the history in, but oh well...I just want some closure SOON.<br><br>I really dislike your raised emphasis on the newly chartered<br>IETF EMAN WG (especially given that MANY of the IETF<br>projects fail entirely or else drag out for years). Waiting for<br>IETF EMAN would be a serious mistake for HCD vendors.<br><br>And quickly, the first question has gone badly awry:<br><br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On a scale of 1 to 5, where 1 corresponds to “no importance” and 10 corresponds to “critical consideration”, ... </span><br><br>Is the scale supposed to be 1 to 5 or 1 to 10? <br><br>Do we really know how this will be represented in the survey?<br><br>WHY wouldn't we ask simple yes/no questions? This 1 to 5<br>stuff just makes summary results fuzzier, it seems to me.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br clear=all>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#6600CC'>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Christmas through April:<br> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br> 734-944-0094<br>May to Christmas:<br> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br> 906-494-2434<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:09 PM, William Wagner <<a href="mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net">wamwagner@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I have posted suggested revisions to the article and the questions at </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/mpsa-pwg-power-article-dec-2010-ww.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/mpsa-pwg-power-article-dec-2010-ww.pdf</a> and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/mpsa-pwg-power-article-dec-2010-ww.doc" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/mpsa-pwg-power-article-dec-2010-ww.doc</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I apologize, but these changes are to the original draft, not the latest. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Although a red-line MS Word view may appear to suggest drastic changes, the changes are more to order than to content. However, I do suggest that we drop the history, since I think MPSA interest will be more on what is going to happen (that affects them) than what happened. Also, considering that some portion of the audience is in the business of providing a service including the devices, I suggested some rewording of the questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:wims-bounces@pwg.org" target="_blank">wims-bounces@pwg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wims-bounces@pwg.org" target="_blank">wims-bounces@pwg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ira McDonald<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wims@pwg.org" target="_blank">wims@pwg.org</a>; Ira McDonald<br><b>Subject:</b> [WIMS] Draft of MPSA Power article/survey (28 Nov 2010)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi,<br><br>I just posted a slightly revised third draft of the December MPSA PWG<br>Power Management article (w/ survey questions at the end) at:<br><br> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/mpsa-pwg-power-article-dec-2010-v3.doc" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/mpsa-pwg-power-article-dec-2010-v3.doc</a><br><br>I changed the "Tech support..." use case per Andrew's comments (which my MS<br>Word 2007 didn't complain about in grammar-check) and cleaned up wording<br>in several other paragraphs.<br><br>I would like to give this to Jim Fitzpatrick by THIS Tuesday at the latest, for <br>publication in the Monday 5 December MPSA newsletter.<br><br>Any last comments?<br><br clear=all>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br clear=all><br><br>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Hardcopy WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#6600CC'>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Christmas through April:<br> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176<br> 734-944-0094<br>May to Christmas:<br> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br> 906-494-2434<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#888888'><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/" target="_blank"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><br />--
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