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Hi Tom,<br><br>Sorry this is so obscure.<br><br>The real reason is quite simple.<br><br>RFC 3805 defined two SEPARATE MIB modules:<br><br>IANA-PRINTER-MIB<br>- enums that can be changed and are IANA managed<br> (so-called "Type 2" enums)<br>
<br>Printer-MIB<br>- enums that CANNOT be changed because IANA doesn't have them<br> (so-called "Type 1" enums)<br>- also all the objects in the main body of the MIB (also can't be changed)<br><br>Your prtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnitTC is in the second module.<br>
<br>It's just a physical impossiblity to change it without an entire<br>new RFC, because IANA does NOT have the source file to<br>this second MIB module.<br><br>Do you see?<br><br>This is very badly explained in section 2.4.1 of RFC 3805 - using the<br>
Type 1 and Type 2 language of IPP/1.1 (RFC 2911). <br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Silver, Thomas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Thomas.Silver@xerox.com">Thomas.Silver@xerox.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi folks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Sorry for the delayed response. Thank you for considering my proposal during your WIMS WG meeting. I do appreciate that time that was spent discussing this request. However, I still do NOT understand why our proposal to add ‘hundredthsOfInkSticks(20)’ to ‘PrtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnitTC’ was rejected. Why does a new enum for this optional object require a new RFC in order to extend the enum definitions? The only rationale that I can loosely apply to your position is that the enums for the ‘prtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnit’ object may be defined as Type 1 enums. Unfortunately, I cannot find anything within RFC 3805 which defines the optional ‘prtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnit’ object as requiring type 1 enums. Therefore, can you please help me understand where this is defined and why? Until then, I will remain confused about your decision…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Tom<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Ira McDonald [mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 28, 2011 5:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Silver, Thomas; Michael R Sweet; <a href="mailto:pmp@pwg.org" target="_blank">pmp@pwg.org</a>; <a href="mailto:wims@pwg.org" target="_blank">wims@pwg.org</a>; Ira McDonald<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Response to Xerox request for IANA Printer MIB enumerations<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Thomas,<br><br>The WIMS WG discussed your request at our teleconference yesterday<br>
and reached the following consensus:<br><br><br>(1) add ‘hundredthsOfInkSticks(20)’ to ‘PrtMarkerSuppliesSupplyUnitTC’<br> - rejected - rationale: TC in Printer MIB module - requires new RFC<br> - but PWG Steering Committee has asked WIMS WG to consider a<br>
Printer MIB v3 (moving TCs to IANA Printer MIB) at December F2F<br> (this would require several years given IETF process delays)<br> - recommendation - use 'percent' for now<br><br>(2) add ‘standardToner(35)’ to ‘PrtMarkerSuppliesTypeTC’<br>
- rejected - rationale: 'standard' is the default of any supply type (Mike S)<br> - recommendation - treat any unmodified supply type as 'standard'<br><br>(3) add ‘matteToner(35)’ to ‘PrtMarkerSuppliesTypeTC’<br>
- accepted - rationale: widely used distinct toner type (Mike S)<br><br>Also:<br>(4) add 'matteInk(36)' ‘PrtMarkerSuppliesTypeTC’<br> - rationale: widely used distinct toner type (Mike S)<br><br>I will send these registrations to IANA shortly.<br>
<br>Cheers,<br>- Ira (one of IETF Designated Experts for Printer MIB, along w/ Mike Sweet)<br><br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
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