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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>I am ok with either name; but in PJT, if
the convention is to use MediaSource; then I believe we should use
MediaSourceCheck and not MediaInputTrayCheck.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Sweet
[mailto:msweet@apple.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012
3:57 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Zehler, Peter; ipp@pwg.org;
mfd@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IPP]
media-input-tray-check-default</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>MediaInputTrayCheck and 5100.3's media-input-tray-check use the older
Printer MIB naming convention, even though roll and slot names can be used.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>MediaSource comes from JPS3's media-source - "source" as a
more general word than "input tray" since it covers slots and rolls.
We had a lot of discussion about this early in the definition of media-source
for JPS3 and concluded that we should break the chain and use the new name.
(oh, and realizing that we have printer-input-tray and
printer-output-tray mapped from the MIB, I may propose to change those names
accordingly for the final JPS3; "media-source" is widely implemented
already but "printer-input-tray" and "printer-output-tray"
are not...)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Pete, Mike<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>In the PJT the MediaInputTray is (I
believe) is called MediaSource; so, at least in the PJT, should
MediaInputTrayCheck become MediaSourceCheck??<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Glen<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>
[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Petrie,
Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012
2:34 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Michael Sweet; Zehler, Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [IPP]
media-input-tray-check-default</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Should the value of “Unknown” be
used? Below is the statement from rfc2911<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Note: SNMP MIBs use '2' for 'unknown'
which corresponds to the IPP<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> "out-of-band"
value 'unknown'. See the description of the "out-of-<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> band" values at the
beginning of Section 4.1. Therefore, attributes<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'> of type 'enum' start at '3'.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>
[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael
Sweet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012
8:53 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Zehler, Peter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [IPP]
media-input-tray-check-default</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>OK, I'm convinced. I'll add "no-value" to this one and
any others like it where it would not always make sense to force a default
value.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Jan 24, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Zehler, Peter wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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widows: 2;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
word-spacing:0px'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Mike,<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I prefer option
#2. One of my reason is that it allows the operator to set policy for
underspecified jobs on the printer. (If the client is not being careful,
then the printer will.) It is a very handy feature in production printing.<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Pete<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<u1:p></u1:p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><u4:p> </u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Impact><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Impact;color:navy'>Peter Zehler</span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><br>
<br>
</span></font><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2
color=navy face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:navy'><st1:place u5:st="on"><st1:placename u5:st="on">Xerox</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
size=2 color=navy face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:navy'></st1:placename> <st1:placename u5:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Research</st1:placename></st1:PlaceName>
<st1:placetype u5:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Center</st1:placetype></st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place></st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:navy'> Webster<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Email:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com"><font color=purple><span style='color:
purple'>Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</span></font></a></span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>FAX: (585) 265-7441</span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Xerox Corp.</span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><st1:street u5:st="on"><st1:address u5:st="on">800 Phillips Rd.</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street></st1:address></st1:street><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>M/S 128-25E</span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Webster NY, 14580-9701</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><u4:p> </u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<u1:p></u1:p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> </span></font></span><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'><a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org"><font color=purple><span
style='color:purple'>ipp-bounces@pwg.org</span></font></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Paul Tykodi<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:11 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org"><font
color=purple><span style='color:purple'>ipp@pwg.org</span></font></a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>RE: [IPP]
media-input-tray-check-default<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hi Mike,<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><u4:p> </u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>For production printing,
I have found during my career that it is critical to have automatic checks and
balances within the job submission workflow so that a very large job (with a
significant cost of production) is not released such that it will be printed on
incorrect media and thus be a total loss (i.e. must be destroyed and cannot be
distributed – job must be run again). The AFP Consortium has the same type of
intelligence in their Intelligent Printer Data Stream specification as we have
in IPP.<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><u4:p> </u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I think it is possible
that some vendors may have interpreted the description in the specification to
mean that the default value should refer to the function being enabled or
disabled. If it is enabled, it then interacts with the media in the job ticket
I therefore prefer option #2 to resolve this issue.<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><u4:p> </u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><u4:p> </u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>/Paul<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>--</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>Paul Tykodi<br>
Principal Consultant<br>
TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC<br>
<br>
Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820<br>
<st1:place u5:st="on"><st1:city u5:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Mobile</st1:city></st1:place></st1:place></st1:City>:
603-866-0712<br>
E-mail: <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com"><font color=purple><span style='color:purple'>ptykodi@tykodi.com</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=7 color="#1f497d" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:100.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>WWW: <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tykodi.com/" target="_blank"><font
color=purple face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:purple'>http://www.tykodi.com</span></font></a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-image: initial'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> </span></font></span><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'><a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org"><font color=purple><span
style='color:purple'>ipp-bounces@pwg.org</span></font></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:%5bmailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org%5d"><font color=purple><span
style='color:purple'>[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]</span></font></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Michael
Sweet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, January 23, 2012 6:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org"><font
color=purple><span style='color:purple'>ipp@pwg.org</span></font></a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[IPP] media-input-tray-check-default<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>All,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am going through yet another round of updates
to the IANA registry (this time for sure! :), and noticed that I still have the
media-input-tray-check-default attribute tagged as "under review". I
would like to resolve this before we submit our next round of updates to the
registry.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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defines the media-input-tray-check Job Template attribute thusly:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The “media-input-tray-check” Job Template
attribute indicates that the Printer MUST check that
the characteristics of the media in the identified input tray are the same
as characteristics of the media identified by the Job's
"media" Job Template attribute or matched (see
section 3.13) by the Job's "media- col" Job Template
attribute. The keyword values are the same input tray keyword values as
are defined for the "media" Job Template attribute (see section
6.3 in this document and [RFC2911] Appendix C), i.e., 'top',
'middle', 'bottom', etc.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Independent of the
"ipp-attributes-fidelity" operation attribute supplied by the client,
if the characteristics differ, the Printer adds the
‘resources-are-not-ready’ value (see section 6.1) to the job's
"job-state-reasons" attribute and MAY either (1) put the job
into the ‘pending-held’ state or (2) start to process the job normally,
but immediately stop the job (“job-state” = ‘processing-stopped’) and the
Printer (“printer-state” = ‘stopped’). In either implementation, the
operator can change the media in the input tray to agree with the job
or can modify the job’s “media” or “media-col” attributes to agree with
the input tray, depending on policy.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Table 1 (at the beginning of section 3)
defines media-input-tray-check-default and -supported.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The issue is that there should not be a
default media-input-tray-check value; like some other Job Template attributes (e.g.
overrides), it does not make sense to have a default value for this particular
attribute since it interacts with the media in the job ticket.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>1. Drop media-input-tray-check-default from
the registry and post an errata for 5100.3 removing the
media-input-tray-check-default attribute from Table 1.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>2. Update the definition of
media-input-tray-check-default to include the "no-value" out-of-band
value.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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