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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am in the mountains next week. I should have an updated
schema posted later today. I’m on page 6 of 12 of the face to face meeting
notes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pete<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Peter Zehler</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Xerox Research Center Webster<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>FAX: (585) 265-7441</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Xerox Corp.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
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color:navy'>M/S 128-25E</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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color:navy'>Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> William Wagner
[mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zehler, Peter; mfd@pwg.org; Nancy.Chen@okidata.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mfd-bounces@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [MFD] MFD Overall spec questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pete,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think it best to see the updated schema before we discuss this
stuff, so that we don’t get into discussing things that are already being
changed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What was the reason we are not having a call next week?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Zehler, Peter
[mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> William Wagner; mfd@pwg.org; Nancy.Chen@okidata.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mfd-bounces@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [MFD] MFD Overall spec questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Nancy & Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I expect to have an update of the schema based on input from the
Face to Face available this week. I’ll let you know when it is
posted. (I also expect to get the Resource specification in final form
and ready for Harry to announce this week as well.) I do not expect
AvailableResources to be included under both Server and System. I will have
to check back on the meeting notes to see exactly what was decided. I
think the issue will be with AvailableResources moved under System and the
existing SupportedResources under System Description. We need to
have this as the first item for discussion at the July 23<sup>rd</sup> phone
conference. I am available this Thursday in the MFD timeslot and can
supply LiveMeeting is there is any interest in a teleconference if there is
interest in an MFD teleconference or focused working session.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Let me know,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pete<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Peter Zehler</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Xerox Research Center Webster<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>FAX: (585) 265-7441</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Xerox Corp.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>M/S 128-25E</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mfd-bounces@pwg.org
[mailto:mfd-bounces@pwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Wagner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> mfd@pwg.org; Nancy.Chen@okidata.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mfd-bounces@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [MFD] MFD Overall spec questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Nancy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your response. I do hope that the schema gets
updated soon, because despite Ira’s contention that the document is
definitive rather than the schema, I am trying to make the document follow the
schema.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The complex element AvailableResources (a term that needs some
definition) is in the inherited ServiceDescription element group. I can see
that, when in the description of a service, it applies to the resources
available to that service. I agree that these does not include resources
available for just one job. It is not clear to me that this would not
include resources provided through the Resource Service if they are
persistent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>When applied in a System context, what is included depends upon
how the information is to be used. English usage gets a little
muddy relative to strict logic usage with words such as “any”
vs “all” . Your “any” response to question 2 suggests
to me that even if a resource is available to only one service, it is included
as a system element. This might be useful in an accounting sense, but one still
needs to view the Service AvailableResources to see what can be used on a job.
On the other hand, if the element includes resources available to all supported
services, this identifies resources that can be used on any job, although
perhaps not all. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But I am still puzzled by AvailableResources under Server
as well as under System. At the present time there is no Subunit complex
element under System. Each service does include a Configuration complex
element that identifies the subunits used by the service. The Subunits under
Server presumably include all of the subunits constituting the device.
Similarly, the AvailableResources under Server would include all
AvailableResources in the device. This would be redundant with
AvailableResources under SystemDescription if we take the “any”
definition considered above.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I do not see the function of such redundancy. I think the
concept of the System is evolving. In some cases, as it SystemStatus, the
System values appear to represent the entire device. In others, such as
OperationsSupported, we consider the System as a distinct entity with its own
special operations. Perhaps System AvailableResources should identity just
those resources used by the system as a distinct functional entity? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Opinions, please.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
Nancy.Chen@okidata.com [mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> William Wagner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mfd@pwg.org; mfd-bounces@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MFD] MFD Overall spec questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi Bill,</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>According to my
understanding,</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1. Yes, we
agreed to change ResourceSupported to AvailableResources in System.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>2.
AvailableResources contains permanently installed resources readily available
to the MFD system, as compared to those needed to be downloaded using Resource
Service. I would say these are available to any supported service in the
device.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>3.
AvailableResources complex element used to be under Server but not in System.
We have just started to define AvailableResources in System which actually has
the same semantics. So these two are redundant. But I think it's useful to
retain it in Server to serve as the base class for AvailableResources in
System. The relationship between the AvailableResources under Server and that
under System is just like the relationship between the Subunits element under
Server and the Subunits under the System.</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Pete said he
will make sure we got the semantic right after the meeting. But he is out these
days, we should double check with him in the next teleconference for the
correct semantics.</span> <br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards,</span>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-Nancy</span> <br>
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I have been working on what has turned out
to be a major re-organization,</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<tt>based on the comments at the June face-to-face. At this point, I have a few</tt><br>
<tt>rather low-level questions with respect to System as represented in the</tt><br>
<tt>schema.</tt><br>
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>1. SystemDescription includes
the ServiceDescription element group,</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt>which includes ResourcesSupported. I have a note that we changed that to</tt><br>
<tt>AvailableRescources. Is that correct?</tt><br>
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>2. In the System
context, does ResourcesSupported /AvailableRescources</span></tt><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt>deal will all the resources available to any supported service in the</tt><br>
<tt>device, or only to resources available to all supported services in the</tt><br>
<tt>device?</tt><br>
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>3. How does this relate to the
AvailableResources complex element under</span></tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt>Server, which is at the same level as System , Services and Subunits?</tt><br>
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>4.</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks,</span></tt><span style='font-size:
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bill Wagner</span></tt><span
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