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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Pete,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t quite follow your first comment, but certainly
agree with your second comment. I think these additional elements are an
important part of the modeling, but it is not clear in all cases whether the element
should be. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>the general ServiceDescription group
(OperationsSupported should be), <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>the System specific SystemDescription
area (yes on </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>DeviceId,
PrinterInfo, PrinterLocation, PrinterMakeAndModel, PrinterMoreInfo,
PrinterMoreInfoManufacturer and PrinterName, perhaps with Device in place of
Printer)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Service-specific Description Areas (such
as they are now with the Print Service)</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>These all have impact on the Overall MFD document. Can we
schedule some workgroup time to discuss this, and the AvailableResources
questions too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Zehler, Peter
[mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> William Wagner; mfd@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [MFD] MFD Schema questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My comments are inline below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";color:navy'>Peter
Zehler</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Xerox Research Center Webster<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mfd-bounces@pwg.org
[mailto:mfd-bounces@pwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Wagner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> mfd@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [MFD] MFD Schema questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am confused
by what appears to be a lack of parallelism in the schema, although with the
implications it has in the specification documents.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We have been,
most reasonably, identifying the operations specific to each service. However,
I do not see these operations identified in the Schema for any service other
than Print. (perhaps I am just missing them)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><PZ>The WSDL identifies
the operations defined for each service (e.g. PwgPrint.wsdl). The
messages for the operations are defined in an associated schema (e.g.
PwgPrintOpMsg.xsd). The operation messages schema are really part of the
Web Service Definition but are broken out due to personal preferences.
The elements in the operation parameters are drawn from the PWG’s MFD
data model which are all the other schema in the directory.</PZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>For the Print
Service, the PrintServiceDescription includes the general ServiceDescription
elements, and then some 40+ additional elements among which are
OperationsSupported.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>However, the
other Services include just the general ServiceDescription elements and an
“any”, without any additional service-specific description
elements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Perhaps at
least the OperationsSupported element should be among the general
ServiceDescription elements? Although one would expect that there would
be Service-specific service description elements for each service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><PZ>The reason
OperationsSupported was included in Print is that it is the mechanism used by
IPP to determine which mandatory and optional operations are available in the
implementation. It seems to me that an element listing all the supported
operations would be useful in all the services. It should be included in
the ServicesDescription base class. There may be other Printer
description elements such as the “three sisters” attributes from
IPP (i.e. PrinterUriSupported, UriAuthenticationSupported, UriSecuritySupported).
There are some elements that make sense to be generalized to System as opposed
to the base class for the Services. Examples include DeviceId,
PrinterInfo, PrinterLocation, PrinterMakeAndModel, PrinterMoreInfo,
PrinterMoreInfoManufacturer and PrinterName. These are useful for the MFD
as a whole.</PZ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Bill Wagner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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