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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Of course - I just thought of what happens when there is a name conflict with another device on the network, and tested it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The conflict caused the registered name via MDNS to have "(2)" appended to it, but neither printer-name nor printer-dns-sd-name were updated to match.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So now I'm wondering if that is a bug. Is that a bug? I think that is as I read PWG 5100.13 - printer-dns-sd-name at a minumum should have changed to match the MDNS (updated) registered name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Christopher Rizzo</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Engineer II, Software Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Kennedy Smith <smith.kennedy@hp.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [IPP] What value do IPP Printers provide for "printer-name"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes, both are updated together.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">And they are independent of the hostname<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 3:49 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [IPP] What value do IPP Printers provide for "printer-name"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Chris! HP printers do something similar for the default DNS-SD Instance Name. If Xerox printers provide the same value for "printer-name" as "printer-dns-sd-name", if one changes then so does the other?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The Xerox devices that I work on use the Bonjour advertisement name for IPP printer-name. I cannot speak for all Xerox products.<br>
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The factory default for this is "Xerox <model> (<last 3 bytes of eth mac addr>)".<br>
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Reason for the mac addr append is for customers that purchase more than one device they can be identified while avoiding the need for initial conflicts in name resolution.<br>
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On 6/11/24, 12:46 PM, "ipp on behalf of Michael Sweet via ipp" <ipp-bounces@pwg.org <mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org> on behalf of ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>> wrote:<br>
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> On Jun 11, 2024, at 3:22 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <smith.kennedy@hp.com <mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com>> wrote:<br>
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> So the attributes involved in a discussion were:<br>
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> printer-name (RFC 2911 / 8011 - required)<br>
> printer-make-and-model (RFC 2911 / 8011 - recommended)<br>
> printer-dns-sd-name (PWG 5100.13 - required)<br>
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> The wording of "printer-name" makes it sound like it should be a unique name, not a model name...<br>
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A printer by any other name would smell as sweet?<br>
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From RFC 8011, "printer-name" is *not* a unique name, just a more friendly one:<br>
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5.4.4. printer-name (name(127))<br>
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This REQUIRED Printer attribute contains the name of the Printer. It<br>
is a name that is more End User friendly than a URI. An<br>
Administrator determines a Printer's name and sets this attribute to<br>
that name. This name can be the last part of the Printer's URI, or<br>
it can be unrelated. In non-US-English locales, a name can contain<br>
characters that are not allowed in a URI.<br>
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