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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is a typo in there "weavyweight".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, there is a stationery-bond in PWG 5101.1, but it is not at the
<a href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipp-registrations/ipp-registrations.xhtml">
registration site</a>. Is the registration site supposed to be the official superset of all names?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Christopher Rizzo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Xerox Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Phone: (585) 314-6936<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">-Maurice Wilkes, <i>
Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer</i></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 11:46 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [IPP] Registered media-type values<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In general I'm in favor of adding these. Some feedback below...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FWIW, the "media-back-coating", "media-front-coating", "media-recycled", and "media-weight" member attributes are supposed to be used for this stuff, but honestly they have very few implementations and are not needed 99.99% of the time. We
also have already added other "media-type" values that capture weight and coating...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is your request in the official registration template format (with my naming changes as noted below):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attributes (attribute syntax)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Keyword Attribute Value Reference<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> ----------------------- ---------<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">media-type (type2 keyword | name(MAX)) [PWG5100.7]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> cardstock-coated [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> cardstock-heavyweight [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> cardstock-weavyweight-coated [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> cardstock-lightweight [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> cardstock-lightweight-coated [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> labels-heavyweight [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> labels-lightweight [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> stationery-recycled [XEROX20201202]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Rizzo, Christopher via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to request the following media-types be added to the IPP IANA registry:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">stationery-recycled<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Funny, I thought we ended up adding this one already, but turns out not. There was some discussion back in 2001 asking for it and stationery-bond, and neither ended up being added.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Based on stationery, these should have the weight first, e.g.:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> cardstock-lightweight-coated<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> cardstock-heavyweight-coated<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">labels-lightweight<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Notes:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>• coated is a generic term that is used for (glossy, matte, etc) for devices that support this type of media that is not necessarily photo paper.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>• Our devices differentiate different media weights for labels and cardstock - this differentiation exists to address (among other things) adjustments that occur for media path tolerance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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• lightweight cardstock or labels refers to 106-169 gsm weight<o:p></o:p></p>
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• standard cardstock or labels (for which there are already existing registered keywords) refer to 170-256 gsm weight<o:p></o:p></p>
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• heavyweight cardstock or labels refers to 257-300 gsm weight<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Christopher Rizzo<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Xerox Corporation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: (585) 314-6936<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org">msweet@msweet.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: Friday, November 20, 2020 at 11:37 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To: Christopher Rizzo <<a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cc: PWG Workgroup <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [IPP] Registered media-type values<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">CAUTION: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 20, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Rizzo, Christopher via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear PWG,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PWG 5100.3 section 3.13.2 documents keyword values for media-type. However, this list is incomplete for what our products need to report (for example, differentiation between photo-glossy vs. photo-matte, recycled paper, heavy cardstock
vs. light cardstock, pre-punched etc.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Correct, we are in the process of revising 5100.3, but all of the media-col content was moved to PWG 5100.7-2019 (JOBEXT 2.0) and the media type names were long ago moved to PWG 5101.1-2013 (MSN 2.0)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">RFC 8011 leads me to the IANA IPP registry, which leads me to PWG 5100.7, which leads me to PWG 5101.1, which leads me to a list that does not intersect with the list in PWG 5100.3.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All of the 5100.3 values minus the "screen" types *should* be in 5101.1-2013 - that is where we started when I did MSN 2.0.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The document makes reference to RFC2534 for a registry of other types. Where is this registry and how do I access it? Is this separate from the IANA IPP registry? And if the registered keywords are not sufficient are we forced to implement
all media-type-xxx as name(MAX) instead of type3 keyword?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Actually type2 keyword now (type3 was eliminated by IETF), and the IANA IPP registry is now the master registry for media-type values. RFC 2534 was about specifying media for web pages and honestly has no relation to the current CSS media
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<p class="MsoNormal">Going further, how does one go about registering new media-type keyword values?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The same as any other IPP keyword value - send an email to the list with your request and we'll discuss it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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