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<p class="MsoNormal">Ok by me to move to 5100.16. Apologies for such late inputs I know Transaction Printing is at last call.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Christopher Rizzo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Xerox Corporation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">26600 SW Parkway Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Email: Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">-Maurice Wilkes, <i>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:43 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>PWG Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">printer-mandatory-job-attributes is in 5100.13 (at present), although that document is also being revised so we *could* move printer-mandatory-job-attributes to 5100.16 and then be able to deal with the interactions more clearly...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts everyone?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 13, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <<a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for the multiple emails. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Suggest changing Section 4.1 this:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Printers that support multiple payment or billing options for each user account can support<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">them via the “job-account-id” and “job-accounting-user-id” Job Template attributes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[PWG5100.7]. Printers notify Clients that they require these values in a print job creation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">request by including the corresponding attribute names in the “printer-mandatory-job<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">attributes” Printer Description attribute [PWG5100.7].<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Printers that support multiple payment or billing options for each user account can support<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">them via the “job-account-id” and “job-accounting-user-id” Job Template attributes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[PWG5100.7]. Printers notify Clients that they require one or both of these values in a print job creation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">request by including the corresponding attribute name(s) in the “printer-mandatory-job<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">attributes” Printer Description attribute [PWG5100.7]. Printers notify Clients that one or both of these values
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<p class="MsoNormal">are optional in a print job creation request by including the corresponding attribute name(s) in the “printer-requested-job<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">attributes” Printer Description attribute.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Note: job-account-id and job-accounting-user-id cannot appear in both printer-mandatory-job-attributes and printer-requested-job-attributes at the same time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Xerox Corporation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">26600 SW Parkway Ave.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: (585) 314-6936<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: Christopher Rizzo <<a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:06 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To: Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org">msweet@msweet.org</a>>, PWG Workgroup <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apologies - 1 other question:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Should printer-requested-job-attributes be mentioned in regard to adding job-account-id or job-accounting-user-id when one or both of these may be supported but optional? (ie - job-accounting-user-id present in printer-mandatory-job-attributes
because can't print without it, but job-account-id in printer-requested-job-attributes because it is optional, but can print without it).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Christopher Rizzo<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Xerox Corporation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">26600 SW Parkway Ave.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: (585) 314-6936<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: Christopher Rizzo <<a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:02 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To: Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org">msweet@msweet.org</a>>, PWG Workgroup <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just some comments on this. Hope not too late:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Line 230: "Use existing the existing IPP" should be "Use the existing IPP"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. Should section 6.2 include job-account-id and job-accounting-user-id or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously undefined attributes)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. Should section 6.4 include job-account-id-supported, job-accounting-user-id-supported, job-account-id-default and job-accounting-user-id-default or not because they're in PWG 5100.7 (this spec only defining previously undefined attributes)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Other than these questions, no issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: (585) 314-6936<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>> on behalf of PWG Workgroup <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reply-To: Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org">msweet@msweet.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 1:39 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: [IPP] IPP WG Last Call: IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 (Ends February 13, 2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[This Last Call starts today, January 30, 2020 and ends at 10pm PST on February 13, 2020]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This message starts the IPP workgroup Last Call of the IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions v1.1 specification, available at:<o:p></o:p></p>
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