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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Smith,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks. I concur w/ Mike's comments on the scope of these attributes.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>- Ira</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</div><div>Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br></div><div dir="ltr">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>(permanent) PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434</div><div>(to 30 April 2020) 203 W Oak St Elletsville, IN 47429 812-876-9970<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:30 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">OK, I will restore those and post a new draft.<div><br><div>
Smith<br><br><br>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" target="_blank">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div>Smith,<br>
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"device-uuid", "printer-organization", and "printer-organizational-unit" are required for IPP Everywhere, which is not an enterprise-focused document. "device-service-count" is a count of services that use the same output device, which crosses enterprise, production, and cloud/shared infrastructure.<br>
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I can appreciate wanting to clean up the scope of this document, but I think we want to be careful about moving common attributes to highly-focused specifications who scope and conformance requirements don't match how they are used in things like IPP Everywhere.<br>
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> On Feb 4, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Greetings,<br>
> <br>
> I've just posted an updated draft of IPP Driverless Printing Extensions v2.0. It is available here:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.pdf" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.pdf</a> <br>
> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.docx" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.docx</a> <br>
> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.pdf" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.pdf</a> <br>
> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.docx" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.docx</a><br>
> <br>
> Changes in this revision include:<br>
> <br>
> • Accepted all changes and made all recommended edits from the November F2F review, which stopped at section 6.2. Made substantial changes from the beginning:<br>
> • Reviewed and rewrote the Abstract and Introduction to better match the new title<br>
> • Reviewed and rewrote a number of the use cases and added new use cases that should have already been there<br>
> • Created table in section 4 mapping coordinating Use Cases and Design Requirements to the corresponding IPP additions defined in the body of the document<br>
> • Imported the IPP Presets registration document definitions to add them to this specification<br>
> • Moved "device-service-count", "device-uuid", "printer-organization", and "printer-organizational-unit" attributes and their associated use cases to IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0 [PWG5100.11-2020] because they are more aligned with enterprise printing than driverless printing<br>
> I'm afraid the next review will require starting at the beginning again, but I think the old text from 5100.13 needed rewriting to match the title and to better cover the attributes that 5100.13 had already defined as well as the additions.<br>
> <br>
> Smith<br>
> <br>
> /**<br>
> Smith Kennedy<br>
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