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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">So if it is now named "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions (NODRIVER)", what version number, since it is a renamed / rebranded JPS3?<div class=""><br class="">
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="protected-part"><div class="protected-title">Signed PGP part</div><div class="protected-content"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1. Will go with that.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" class="">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Ira,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">NODRIVER works for me as well.<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">____________________<div class="">Michael Sweet</div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Mike,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">See my reply to Uli just now.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For simplicity, how about "nodriver"?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I never visually parse things like "DRVR" and I doubt others do.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">- Ira</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</div><div class="">Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=""><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=""><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br class=""><br class=""><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" class="">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ira,<br class="">
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It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as "NODRVR", and I think the "ipp" that comes before it should hint at the focus on printing, but I don't have a strong objection to it.<br class="">
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> On Oct 18, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Hi Mike,<br class="">
> <br class="">
> I hadn't thought about "DLP".<br class="">
> <br class="">
> How about "nodprt" (No Driver Printing) to preserve the printing aspect.<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Cheers,<br class="">
> - Ira<br class="">
> <br class="">
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br class="">
> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class="">
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class="">
> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class="">
> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">
> mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br class="">
> <br class="">
> <br class="">
> <br class="">
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" target="_blank" class="">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> Ira,<br class="">
> <br class="">
> How about "DRVRLS" or "NODRVR" as the acronym? DLPX makes me think of a super version of DLP projectors... :)<br class="">
> <br class="">
> <br class="">
> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > Hi,<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > To avoid the growing collection of three-letter acronyms ending in 'x',<br class="">
> > I suggest 'ippdlpx' (DLPX) to emphasize that it's about *not* needing<br class="">
> > special drivers.<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > Cheers,<br class="">
> > - Ira<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">
> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br class="">
> > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class="">
> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">
> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">
> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">
> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class="">
> > <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class="">
> > <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">
> > mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">
> > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank" class="">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> > I'm fine with renaming it to be "Driverless Printing Extensions" - will change it in the next draft once the current one has been reviewed.<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > Smith<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> > /**<br class="">
> > Smith Kennedy<br class="">
> > HP Inc.<br class="">
> > */<br class="">
> > <br class="">
> >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> Hi Mike,<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> Thank you!<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> +1<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> I like "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" best of your suggestions<br class="">
> >> (because "Mobile" is too narrow and "Universal" is too ambiguous).<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> JPS3 is a meaningless name.<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> Cheers,<br class="">
> >> - Ira<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">
> >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br class="">
> >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class="">
> >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">
> >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">
> >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">
> >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">
> >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class="">
> >> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class="">
> >> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">
> >> mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">
> >> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:53 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> >> All,<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> As I start to prepare the slides for the November F2F, it occurs to me that we have made some useful name changes to historical specifications:<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> - PWG 5100.3 ("IPP Production Printing Attributes - Set 1") renamed to "IPP Production Printing Extensions"<br class="">
> >> - PWG 5100.11 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2") renamed to "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions"<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> That just leaves PWG 5100.13 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 3"), which has a strong focus on "driverless" printing. I suggest we rename JPS3 to something that indicates its focus, for example:<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions"<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> "IPP Driver Equivalence Extensions"<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> "IPP Mobile Printing Extensions"<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> "IPP Universal Printing Extensions"<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> Thoughts?<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> ________________________<br class="">
> >> Michael Sweet<br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> <br class="">
> >> <br class="">
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> > <br class="">
> <br class="">
> ________________________<br class="">
> Michael Sweet<br class="">
> <br class="">
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