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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 29, 2019, at 3:01 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Mike,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree with all your proposed changes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You didn't propose what to do about it. But for Production Printing Set-1 to be at all useful,</div><div class="">there really *should* be some REQUIRED and RECOMMENDED attributes and a minimum</div><div class="">of actual OPTIONAL attributes - perhaps w/ some feature grouping? <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The rest of IPP Production Printing (e.g., IPP/2.2) builds on this spec - perhaps building sand <br class=""></div><div class="">castles?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">- Ira</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</div><div class="">Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=""><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/BJ1vCQWmwmF0OP6qIxqHeL?domain=sites.google.com" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=""><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/Wj-xCR6nxnh2EWrlfNEPAF?domain=sites.google.com" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br class=""><br class=""><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:41 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Hi Mike,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I support all of these moves. Thanks for your efforts!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If others have differing opinions, or have problems with obsoleting "current-page-order" or "user-defined-values-supported", please speak up!</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
Smith<br class=""><br class="">/**<br class=""> Smith Kennedy<br class=""> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br class=""> HP Inc.<br class="">*/<br class=""><br class="">
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Last year's GSoC projects identified some minor issues with PWG 5100.3: IPP Production Printing Attributes. I propose we do an errata update of PWG 5100.3 and volunteer to serve as editor. Changes would include:<br class="">
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- Remove references to the original page overrides spec (5100.4)<br class="">
- Remove/reword a lot of “implementation-defined” content<br class="">
- Remove finishings-col - now defined in PWG 5100.1-2017: IPP Finishings 2.1<br class="">
- Remove new media values (superseded by PWG 5101.1-2012: PWG Media Standardized Names v2.0)<br class="">
- Obsolete the "current-page-order" Job attribute which gets updated as the document data is transformed to reflect the new page order<br class="">
- Obsolete the "user-defined-values-supported" Printer attribute as we now (properly) use the IANA IPP registry and well-defined extension semantics for keyword values<br class="">
- More clearly define the "imposition-template" Job Templates, and possibly add standard values for watermarking and/or borders<br class="">
- Update the document template, add missing sections, and update references.<br class="">
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Additionally, there are some Job Template attributes (job-account-id, job-accounting-user-id, job-sheets-col, and media-col) which are not specific to production printing. Since everything in this specification is optional (...) it might make sense to move them to the IPP Job Extensions v2.0 specification (which is currently in PWG Last Call but could be pulled back) so that we can make them required/conditionally required as appropriate.<br class="">
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Thoughts?<br class="">
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