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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Defining them in Job Extensions v1.1 seems to be what Mike is recommending in the other thread about JPS2v2.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 7, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hope Job Extensions, because I see them as filling holes in original IPP/1.1.</div><div class="">All printers implement some Job History (perhaps pretty short-lived).<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">- Ira</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</div><div class="">Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=""><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/Dp6ZCM8gpgI8x06NUwZ_0u?domain=sites.google.com" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=""><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/VYZaCNkjqjfxVrM4t4tksB?domain=sites.google.com" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br class=""><br class=""><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:37 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" class="">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">+1 for all 3 of them.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To what spec do we want to add these? Job Extensions v1.1? Enterprise Printing Extensions? Or System Service?<br class="">
<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 7, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-166534533318198370Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><div class="">Hi Mike,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, to all three of these proposed attributes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">- Ira</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-166534533318198370gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</div><div class="">Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=""><a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/Dp6ZCM8gpgI8x06NUwZ_0u?domain=sites.google.com" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=""><a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/VYZaCNkjqjfxVrM4t4tksB?domain=sites.google.com" style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">mailto:<span class="gmail-m_-166534533318198370Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br class=""><br class=""><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div style="display:inline" class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:21 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Oh, and as I was writing this up I thought of maybe the following as well (since IPP/1.1 is vague about what the history contains):<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">job-history-attributes-configured (1setOf keyword)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This Printer Description attribute lists the Job attributes that will be retained in the history phase of each Job. IPP/1.1 [STD92] specifies that at least the "job-id", "job-printer-uri", "job-state", and "job-state-reasons" attributes MUST be retained in the history phase.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This attribute MUST be supported if the "job-history-attributes-supported" (section N.M.P) attribute is supported.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">job-history-attributes-supported (1setOf keyword)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This Printer Description attribute lists the Job attributes that can be retained in the history phase of each Job.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This attribute MUST be supported if the "job-history-attributes-configured" (section N.M.P) attribute is supported.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 7, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank" class="">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail-m_-166534533318198370gmail-m_-3579750841509042921Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">All,<br class=""><br class="">For your consideration, the following two Printer Description attributes would allow a Client to discover (and potentially the administrator to configure since the values are settable) how long a Job will stay in the history phase.<br class=""><br class="">(I also considered "job-history-xxx" and "job-history-time-xxx" for the names; "interval" seemed the most consistent with other existing attributes, particularly with notifications)<br class=""><br class="">--------<br class=""><br class="">job-history-interval-configured (integer(0:MAX))<br class=""><br class="">This Printer Description attribute specifies the minimum number of seconds that a Job will remain in the history phase of its lifecycle [STD92]. Printers SHOULD have a default configured value of at least 60 seconds to allow Clients to discover the disposition of any Jobs that have reached a terminating state.<br class=""><br class="">This attribute MUST be supported if the "job-history-interval-supported" (section N.M.P) attribute is supported.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">job-history-interval-supported (rangeOfInteger(0:MAX))<br class=""><br class="">This Printer Description attribute specifies the range of values that are supported for the "job-history-interval-configured" Printer Description attribute.<br class=""><br class="">This attribute MUST be supported if the "job-history-interval-configured" (section N.M.P) attribute is supported.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_________________________________________________________<br class="">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-166534533318198370gmail-m_-3579750841509042921Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:"Andale Mono";font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal;border-spacing:0px"><div class=""><span class="gmail-m_-166534533318198370gmail-m_-3579750841509042921Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:"Andale Mono";font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div class="">_________________________________________________________<br class="">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer</div></span></div></span></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">ipp mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/DAB2COYkrkiX592WHk3W0z?domain=pwg.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br class=""></blockquote></div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline" class="">ipp mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/DAB2COYkrkiX592WHk3W0z?domain=pwg.org" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank" class="">https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/fxgUCmZ6o6hYpnWWIGXtnT?domain=pwg.org</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div>
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