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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Smith/Bill,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Perhaps we can use something in section 4 like the following:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class="">Access Rights: The authenticated user (see section 9.3 of [RFC8011]) performing this operation must be either a User permitted to create Print Jobs or an Operator or Administrator of the Printer. Otherwise, the Printer MUST reject the operation and return 'client-error-forbidden', 'client-error-not-authenticated', or 'client-error-not-authorized' as appropriate.</div></blockquote><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div>That mirrors the wording from other operations defined in RFC 8011 and other places and makes it clear that the operation is provided for Users that want to print.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thoughts?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>(As for the format debate, I always have used the PDF versions for review because Word does not preserve the layout of text - local fonts and margins for your last used printer will mess things up every time...)</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 6, 2017, at 4:08 PM, <a href="mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net" class="">wamwagner@comcast.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Smith,</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">A few comments:</div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Although the standard compliance terms are used, (MUST, SHOULD, etc.) Section 2 does not include the standard reference defining these terms.</li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Section 4 line 150 (in the non-redline pdf): “… Attributes operation [RFC8011] but can be authenticated …” suggests that the operation is authenticated, which I don’t think is a typical way of indicating that the operation may prompt a sequence to authenticate the user. Prehaps rewording to “ … Attributes operation [RFC8011] except that the response can be filtered based on the most authenticated user and to effect this, the operation can prompt a sequence to authenticate the user.” Or something like that.<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On a more general topic, for whatever reason, the PWG has typically provided drafts in MS Word and PDF formats. The ‘odt’ format is not compatible with , at least, my version of MS Word to the extent that opening it in MS Word produces a incorrectly displayed document subject to extensive editorial comments. The Process states “ Internal working versions of PWG documents should be available in an agreed upon, widely available word processing format, to provide for collaboration between document editors and contributors. For example, Microsoft WORD and HTML are common<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">revisable formats in use, today. “ For those not familiar with your use of Open Office, perhaps it would be better to include a note in your draft announcements that the .odt extension files should be viewed with Apache Open Office, not MS Word.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks, Bill Wagner<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><b class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)</a><br class=""><b class="">Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:44 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">PWG IPP WG Reflector</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[IPP] Updated stable draft of IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes isnow available for review</div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Greetings,</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">An updated stable draft of IPP Get-User-Printer-Attributes is now available for review:</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103.pdf" class="">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103.pdf</a></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103.odt" class="">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103.odt</a></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103-rev.pdf" class="">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103-rev.pdf</a></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103-rev.odt" class="">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippgupa-20171103-rev.odt</a></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Changes are minor:</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">* Fixed a broken bookmark cross reference in section 3.1</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">* Fixed a few instances of passive voice</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">* Some other editorial fixes</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cheers,</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Smith</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">/**</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Smith Kennedy</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>HP Inc.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">*/</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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