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<p class="MsoNormal">Smith,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You are correct in your understanding.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) [mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 8, 2017 3:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zehler, Peter <Peter.Zehler@xerox.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>; PWG IPP WG Reflector <ipp@pwg.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPP] Question concerning 5100.7 section 5.2 "Job Description attributes that are defaults for the Document(s) in the Job"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No worries Pete! Do you agree with Ira about my understanding?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'll file an erratum for this in the event that we (some day) handle PWG specification errata.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Zehler, Peter <<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry about that. I guess we should have used “inherited” and “overridden” in the job/document attribute discussions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:navy">Email:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:purple">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</span></a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>ipp [<a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org">mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ira
McDonald<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, September 7, 2017 5:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>>; Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>PWG IPP WG Reflector <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [IPP] Question concerning 5100.7 section 5.2 "Job Description attributes that are defaults for the Document(s) in the Job"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Smith,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">You got it right.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Remember first there were *only* Job attributes in IPP (no Document<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">object) and much later there were Document attributes. And the word<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">meaning (not pre-configured by an Admin but submitted by a Client).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A clarifying paragraph that contrasts these two uses of "default"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">(i.e., apples and camels) would be a worthwhile errata to this spec.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">- Ira<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
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Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Greetings,<br>
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Perhaps since I wasn't involved in the creation of PWG 5100.7, I'm having difficulty understanding the meaning of its section 5.2 "Job Description attributes that are defaults for the Document(s) in the Job". I don't quite understand how to even parse its title.
Does this mean that 5100.7 is prescribing that the Printer MUST use these Job Description attributes' values as the values for the corresponding Document Description attributes in the case where the Client hasn't overtly specified values for the individual
Document objects in a Document creation operation? The use of "default" in this context seems different than the "xxx-default" convention from RFC 8011 etc.<br>
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Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br>
Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
HP Inc.<br>
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