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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I would hope in your discussions that the definition of the PWG/IPP coordinate system in IPP Finishings 2.1 (section 5.2), RFC2911 (section (4.2.10), PWG 5100.3 (section 2.4),
PWG 5108.01 (Section 2.5) and other places I’m sure. There seems to be a disconnect (i.e., disagreement on coordinate system root) between the Semantic Model and IPP that should be addressed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">When it comes to finishing it has been my understanding that
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The End User would express their intent (read that in the UI) based on WISYWIG or based on document content and intended media layout.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The IPP Client software would represent the End User intent in IPP as though the desired output is in the portrait orientation. IPP assumes text is laid out from
left to right and top to bottom regardless of the content. The result is a normalized coordinate system on the wire.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The IPP Printer software would process the normalized End User intent and make the necessary modifications based on device configuration. The modified End User intent
and/or document data is passed onto the interpreter/marker/finisher for document production.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The necessary “impedance matching” between the end user and IPP, and between IPP and the physical printer, is handled in the IPP Client and IPP Printer software respectively.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> ipp [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 26, 2016 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ipp@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPP] Stable draft of IPP Finishings 2.1 posted for review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Greetings,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In some discussions I have had within HP, I wanted to get some certainty about the orientation of "Portrait" in a long-edge feed scenario. Figure 3 of the draft below shows the leading edge to be on the left side of the page. But when
I went back to look at my earlier presentations where we were looking at Finishings 2.1 and feed orientation, the way that the pages were being shown would have had the leading edge be on the right edge of the page.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I posted a slide deck to the PWG FTP site:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Finishings-2.1-Page-Orientation-and-Page-Leading-Edge-2016-08-26.pdf">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/Finishings-2.1-Page-Orientation-and-Page-Leading-Edge-2016-08-26.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">to try to illustrate the issue. The basic question is: does a long-edge feed document get printed so that the right edge of the page is the leading edge, or does Finishings 2.1 define the left edge of the page to be the leading edge?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any input,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Smith<br>
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/**<br>
Smith Kennedy<br>
Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS<br>
Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br>
Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
HP Inc.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2016-08-15, at 2:08 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Greetings,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Following the 2 weeks that the Prototype draft of Finishings 2.1 has been available, there have been no comments on it. I have just posted a stable draft to the PWG FTP site in advance of next week's PWG F2F in Camas. The stable draft
is available here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815.pdf">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815.docx">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815.docx</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815-rev.pdf">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815-rev.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815-rev.docx">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippfinishings21-20160815-rev.docx</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This draft should be suitable for an IPP WG Working Group Last Call.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Smith<br>
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/**<br>
Smith Kennedy<br>
Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS<br>
Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF<br>
Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
HP Inc.<br>
*/<br>
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