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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">OK, the IPP test changes have been updated and pushed to the Github repository.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Rodriguez, Eren <<a href="mailto:eren.rodriguez@hp.com" class="">eren.rodriguez@hp.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Yes - 10 seconds is sufficient to report ‘media-needed’ when out of paper in a job.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">msweet@apple.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:msweet@apple.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:19 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rodriguez, Eren<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ipp; IPP Everywhere Self-Certification discussion list<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [IPP] Updated beta IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Tools Experience<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Eren,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Rodriguez, Eren <<a href="mailto:eren.rodriguez@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eren.rodriguez@hp.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">While media presence does not seem to be required by IPP Everywhere, ipp-tests.test cases I-26 and I-28 assume otherwise.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Section 3.2.3.9 ("Printer Fault") explicitly mentions "out of paper" faults, and RFC 2911 (and 5100.14) require support for the "printer-state-reasons" attribute.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">That said, the intent is that IPP Everywhere printers be able to report "out of paper" primarily while a job is being printed (where it matters most). So I think the solution here is to drop the 'media-empty' test and add a delay before the 'media-needed' test.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Is 10 seconds sufficient delay after the Print-Job request?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I had posted about I-26 back in January. You can see the attached e-mail for more details. It is about giving printers more time to pull and realize an out of paper situation.<br class="">I-28 pauses to let testers remove paper out of a tray. Upon acknowledgement, it sends a Get-Printer-Attributes expecting 'media-empty*' in "printer-state-reasons". Only printers with presence sensors can accomplish this.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks,<br class="">Eren Rodriguez @ HP Inc.<br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet<br class="">Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:08 AM<br class="">To: ipp; IPP Everywhere Self-Certification discussion list<br class="">Subject: [IPP] Updated beta IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Tools posted<br class=""><br class="">All,<br class=""><br class="">I have posted updated IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Tools based on the latest stable draft of the self-certification manual. Download links are below and on the IPP and IPP Everywhere web pages:<br class=""><br class=""> <a href="http://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html</a><br class=""><br class=""> <a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-osx.dmg" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-osx.dmg</a><br class=""> <a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-rhel.tar.gz" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-rhel.tar.gz</a><br class=""> <a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-ubuntu.tar.gz" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-ubuntu.tar.gz</a><br class=""> <a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-windows.msi" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-windows.msi</a><br class=""><br class="">Please report any problems with this software ASAP so I can address them.<br class=""><br class="">_________________________________________________________<br class="">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">ipp mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br class=""><Mail Attachment.eml><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Andale Mono', serif;" class="">_________________________________________________________<br class="">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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