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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Could you please explain why, during the dialing of a PSTN fax connection,<br></div>someone would want to use flash to skip to another line and dialtone? <br><br>I can't understand the practical use case.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Let's discuss this at the next IPP conference call (Monday, April 14th at 3pm)<div><br></div><div>I don't foresee any issues with this addition, but it will require an errata update (at least) of the FaxOut spec.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div class="h5"><div>On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Gyaneshwar C Gupta <<a href="mailto:gupta852@oki.com" target="_blank">gupta852@oki.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite">
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">Dear PWG Members,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">I have a simple request to PWG
expert members' about IPP FaxOut spec. I will be thankful if someone can please
kindly response to my following request; <u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">On the IPP FaxOut spec (<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US"><a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippfaxout10-20131115-5100.15.pdf" target="_blank">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-ippfaxout10-20131115-5100.15.pdf</a>):<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">-----------------<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">7.2.3 destination-uris<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">...<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">DialString = 1*(phonedigit /
dtmf-digit / pause-character)<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">pause-character = one-second-pause /
wait-for-dial-tone<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">one-second-pause = "p"<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">wait-for-dial-tone = "w"<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">dtmf-digit = "*" /
"A" / "B" / "C" / "D" / "#"<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">phonedigit = DIGIT / [
visual-separator ]<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">visual-separator = "-" /
"." / "(" / ")" / "'"<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">-----------------<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">Request:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">We'd like to implement our MFP to
support a character which corresponds to<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">an action of "flash".<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p>
<font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">So we'd like PWG to define a
character of "flash" in IPP FaxOut spec.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">For example, we think the following
definition is appropriate:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">---<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">DialString = 1*(phonedigit /
dtmf-digit / pause-character /<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">flash-character)<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">...<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">flash-character = "f"<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">Thank you in advance for your kind
help and cooperation.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-US">Gyaneshwar <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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