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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Mike,<br><br></div>Agreed - Service(s) --> Printer(s) in IPP.<br><br></div>But this locks us in forever to only output services (like FaxOut), right?<br>
<br></div>The IPP URI scheme (and IPPS URI scheme) allow URIs to reference any<br></div>object (not just IPP Printer), e.g., Subscription.<br><br></div>So I think we ought to at least briefly discuss this (Service-->Printer)<br>
</div>closing the future off at the F2F, before finalizing.<br><br></div>I'm thinking about modelling IPP attributes for ConfiguredPrinters and<br></div>ConfiguredResources (in the System object) and some of the other<br>
</div>complex attributes (presumably they'll become collections?).<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" target="_blank">msweet@msweet.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Ira,<div><br></div><div>While we are on the topic of renaming, in the spirit of IPP we should be calling everything a Printer, not a Service. And instead of ListAllServices/Printers it should be Get-Printers to match Get-Jobs, Get-Documents, Get-Subscriptions, and Get-Notifications.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Operations for 1.0 spec:</div><div><br></div><div>- Disable-Printers</div><div>- Enable-Printers</div><div>- Get-Printers<br>- Get-System-Attributes<br>- Pause-Printers</div><div>- Pause-Printers-After-Current-Job<br>
- Restart-Printers<br>- Resume-Printers<br><div>- Shutdown-Printer (extend RFC 3998)</div>- Shutdown-Printers<br>- Startup-Printers<br><div><div><br></div><div>Additional operations for 2.0 spec:</div><div><br></div><div>
- Delete-Printer</div><div>- Get-Security-Attributes</div><div>- Request-Security-Attributes</div><div>- Restart-Printer (extend RFC 3998)</div>- Set-System-Attributes</div><div>- Startup-Printer (extend RFC 3998)</div><div>
<br></div><div>Thoughts?</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
</div></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Several corrections:<br><br></div>(1) Rename GetSystemElements to GetSystemAttributes (IPP-style)<br></div>
(2) Delete SetSystemElements (out-of-scope for version 1 because of writes)<br>
<br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>- Ira<br><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Ira McDonald <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Mike,<br><br></div>For IPP SCS slides for next week:<br><br>1. Introduction<br>- relationship of System object and System Control Service to IPP Printer<br>- synopsis of rationale<br>
2. Terminology<br>
- conformance, imaging, other, acronyms, etc.<br>3. Requirements<br>- rationale, use cases, out-of-scope, design requirements<br>4. IPP System Model<br>- System Object<br>- Subunit Object<br>- Printer Object<br>- Job Object<br>
- Subscription Object<br>- etc.<br>5. System Object<br>- configuration (subunits)<br>- description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.) <br>-- power calendar/events ???<br>- status (state, health, alerts, configured services/resources, counters, etc.)<br>
-- power log/meters ???<br>6. System Control Service<br>- description (charset, language, name, UUID, location, etc.)<br>- status (state, alerts, etc.)<br>7. System Control Service Operations<br>- GetSystemElements<br>- ListAllServices<br>
- PauseAllServices<br>- RestartAllServices ???<br>- ResumeAllServices<br>- SetSystemElements<br>- ShutdownAllServices ???<br>- StartupAllServices ???<br>8. Conformance Requirements<br>- IPP Client<br>- IPP Printer<br>9. Internationalization Considerations<br>
10. Security Considerations<br>11. IANA Considerations<br>12. References<br>13. Authors' Addresses<br>14. Change History<br><br></div>Comments?<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br clear="all"><div>
<div><div>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
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