attachment
<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Helvetica;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Andale Mono";
panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:ArialMT;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.apple-style-span
{mso-style-name:apple-style-span;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Some more comments on IPP Transaction Based Printing Extensions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Section 8.1 job-state-reasons, it would be good to specify that 'account-authorization-failed' also means invalid job-accounting-user-id and/or 'job-account-id'
were not valid. Right now it says:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:ArialMT;color:black">‘account-authorization-failed’: The “job-authorization-uri” attribute was not supplied</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:ArialMT;color:black">the value supplied is not valid, or the value supplied has expired.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The same is true for section 8.2 Status Codes. client-error-account-authorization-failed (0x41F) should also refer to invalid job-accounting-user-id and job-account-id
were supplied. Right now it says:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:ArialMT;color:black">client-error-account-authorization-failed (0x41F); The print job creation request is</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:ArialMT;color:black">missing the “job-authorization-uri” operation attribute, the supplied value is not valid,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:ArialMT;color:black">or the value supplied has expired.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Xerox is ok with adding the keyword to “job-state-reason” = ‘account-info-conflicting’ in Section 8.1 and ‘client-error-conflicting-attributes’ to Section
8.2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Daniel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@apple.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Manchala, Daniel<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ipp@pwg.org; Ira Mcdonald; Paul Tykodi<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Xerox has reviewed the IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification and has comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Daniel,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your comments. My initial responses are inline below...<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 30, 2013, at 1:27 AM, Manchala, Daniel <<a href="mailto:Daniel.Manchala@xerox.com">Daniel.Manchala@xerox.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Xerox has reviewed the IPP Transaction-Based Printing Extensions specification and has the following comments.<br>
<br>
Xerox would like to add a new "job-state-reason" to </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">section 8.1 “job-state-reasons (1setOf type2 keyword)”: “incompatible account-information”. This account (“job-account-id”)
is not associated with the user (“job-accounting-user-id”). </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">No objection, although we need a proper keyword value. 'account-info-conflicting'?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Likewise, add a new associated status-code to section 8.2 "client-error-account-information-incompatible" (or something of that nature).</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">In this case I'd prefer to keep using client-error-conflicting-attributes and have the printer return the job-account-id and job-accounting-user-id attributes in the unsupported attributes group.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Add an attribute: “job-account-type (type2 keyword | name(MAX))<Job Template>” along with “job-account-type-supported(1setOf type2 keyword | 1setOf name(MAX))<Printer>”
and “job-account-type-default(type2 keyword | name(MAX))<Printer>”. The keywords initially can start with ‘none’, ‘general’, ‘group’ or ‘visa-card’, ‘master-card’, ‘paypal’,’bit-coin’, ‘micro-mint’, ‘cash’, ‘credit-account’, etc., . The preference is to use
keywords as it aids in the internationalization. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">We've very specifically avoided currency or payment identifiers since a) many members, including Xerox, have indicated that payment processing is done separately from the printer and b) we have no facility in IPP to express currency values
or other complex, fractional types.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">What would be the purpose of adding this when the printer-charge-info and printer-charge-info-uri values provide localized resources that can be displayed by the Client? Since the Client never has to have knowledge of how transactions are
processed (just whether the printer needs transactional information), and since job-account-id will not (or at least SHOULD NOT) be a credit card number or other direct payment identifier, I don't see the point in telling the Client anything other than "I
need a job-account-id from the user."<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Add the conformance requirement in IPP: Transaction Based Printing, as an addendum to PWG 5100.3-2001 IPP:Production Printing Attributes – Set 1, Section
7 as follows:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If the Printer supports “job-accounting-user-id” then the Printer MUST support “job-account-id”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">No objection to adding this.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono","serif";color:black">_________________________________________________________<br>
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>