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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Well, I guess I’ll be quiet now except to say it would be a good time to describe the attributes and constraints on all three types of Documents.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet@msweet.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zehler, Peter<br>
<b>Cc:</b> IPP@pwg.org; mfd@pwg.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPP] Don't redefine Hardcopy Document<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pete,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I guess we are in violent agreement. One comment below.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2013-08-06, at 12:54 PM, "Zehler, Peter" <<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is the difference between a Hardcopy Document and a Hardcopy Document /Object/. We need to define the latter and not the former.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><PZ>I see no subclasses of Documents in the PWG Semantic Model or IPP. Whether a document is added to a Job by value, by reference, or by reference to the
output of the scanner subunit, it is still just a Document object. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am not suggesting a subclass of document.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We already categorize documents as "referenced" and "with attached document data". For hardcopy documents we would have a Document Object containing description attributes/elements that identify the source and properties of the hardcopy
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<p class="MsoNormal">I chose to call it a "Hardcopy Document Object" as opposed to a "Document Object with Associated Hardcopy Document Input Elements". How the digital representation is stored and when exactly the document is scanned are, IMHO, implementation
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Michael Sweet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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